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Communication on European Tech Sovereignty, and an EU Open-Source Strategy

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Re: Communication on European Tech Sovereignty, and an EU Open-Source Strategy

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I'm cautiously optimistic. The Cloud and AI Development Act looks especially interesting: --- # Capacity * at least tripling the EU’s data centre capacity within the next 5–7 years; * simplifying and accelerating permitting and deployment of data centres; * improving access to key resources such as energy, land, water and financing; ensuring sufficient computing capacity to support AI, cloud services and data-intensi…

Degrowth was only popular in Germany, UK and Spain. https://cepr.org/voxeu/columns/no-solid-scientific-basis-deg...

Germany and UK follow a the no growth and it is very unpopular. Spain's economy gives a shit and grows.

Re: Communication on European Tech Sovereignty, and an EU Open-Source Strategy

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I'm cautiously optimistic. The Cloud and AI Development Act looks especially interesting: --- # Capacity * at least tripling the EU’s data centre capacity within the next 5–7 years; * simplifying and accelerating permitting and deployment of data centres; * improving access to key resources such as energy, land, water and financing; ensuring sufficient computing capacity to support AI, cloud services and data-intensi…

I'm more than cautious too: > ... initiatives that are interconnected and mutually reinforcing across each stage of the value chain, from chips, to infrastructure, to software, cloud and AI, and in synergy with past and ongoing initiatives such as AI Factories and AI Gigafactories Software / Cloud: yes, Europe can try to do something but I doubt it. Although it should be pointed out that the EU has one software compa…

> Chips?

Only ST, NXP, Nexperia, Osram, and a bunch more obscure ones. It's not a boom, but it's far from a wasteland

Re: Communication on European Tech Sovereignty, and an EU Open-Source Strategy

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Not sure what to make of this. There is also IPCEI-CIS https://www.8ra.com/ipcei-cis/ but I can't see that in that strategy. Or it is buried somewhere deep. There's going to be a Open Source Policy and Ecosystem Forum on June 8 in Brussels https://events.linuxfoundation.org/open-source-policy-ecosys...

Funny how they are publishing free advertising for X, fb, yt etc. on their website. This is telling more about the situation than any speaker at the conference will be able to do.

Re: Communication on European Tech Sovereignty, and an EU Open-Source Strategy

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trump's actions are pushing Europeans towards federalisation as a broader trend. More specifically things like this are happening quietly in the background: https://commission.europa.eu/news-and-media/news/eu-inc-maki... This mandates a few things: Countries must do certain things in English to ensure a common language. Simple liquidation for bankruptcies, register once and operate across the EU. Places like Germany…

It's ironic that the EU has adopted English as their primary language now that England is no longer in the EU.

It almost certainly makes it easier to adopt English, since it no longer has the political optics of favoring a country.

Re: Communication on European Tech Sovereignty, and an EU Open-Source Strategy

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post #6

Not sure what to make of this. There is also IPCEI-CIS https://www.8ra.com/ipcei-cis/ but I can't see that in that strategy. Or it is buried somewhere deep. There's going to be a Open Source Policy and Ecosystem Forum on June 8 in Brussels https://events.linuxfoundation.org/open-source-policy-ecosys...

Funny how they are publishing free advertising for X, fb, yt etc. on their website. This is telling more about the situation than any speaker at the conference will be able to do.

The world isn't built in a day. After years of nothing, the last few months a lot more EU bodies and even national politicians/officials have been joining Mastodon.

It's certainly nowhere near the majority yet, but things are clearly moving.

Re: Communication on European Tech Sovereignty, and an EU Open-Source Strategy

#56

I'm cautiously optimistic. The Cloud and AI Development Act looks especially interesting: --- # Capacity * at least tripling the EU’s data centre capacity within the next 5–7 years; * simplifying and accelerating permitting and deployment of data centres; * improving access to key resources such as energy, land, water and financing; ensuring sufficient computing capacity to support AI, cloud services and data-intensi…

> simplifying and accelerating permitting and deployment of data centres

With the caveat (one hopes) of learning from the mistakes of the US.

Re: Communication on European Tech Sovereignty, and an EU Open-Source Strategy

#57

I'm cautiously optimistic. The Cloud and AI Development Act looks especially interesting: --- # Capacity * at least tripling the EU’s data centre capacity within the next 5–7 years; * simplifying and accelerating permitting and deployment of data centres; * improving access to key resources such as energy, land, water and financing; ensuring sufficient computing capacity to support AI, cloud services and data-intensi…

I'm more than cautious too: > ... initiatives that are interconnected and mutually reinforcing across each stage of the value chain, from chips, to infrastructure, to software, cloud and AI, and in synergy with past and ongoing initiatives such as AI Factories and AI Gigafactories Software / Cloud: yes, Europe can try to do something but I doubt it. Although it should be pointed out that the EU has one software compa…

ARM?

Re: Communication on European Tech Sovereignty, and an EU Open-Source Strategy

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm more than cautious too: > ... initiatives that are interconnected and mutually reinforcing across each stage of the value chain, from chips, to infrastructure, to software, cloud and AI, and in synergy with past and ongoing initiatives such as AI Factories and AI Gigafactories Software / Cloud: yes, Europe can try to do something but I doubt it. Although it should be pointed out that the EU has one software compa…

> Chips? Only ST, NXP, Nexperia, Osram, and a bunch more obscure ones. It's not a boom, but it's far from a wasteland

Infineon as well, but all those EU semi companies mostly make cheap low margin chips that more or less compete with the commodity chips of China and Taiwan but not with the IP from the US or even Israel who designs and sometimes also makes mostly high margin CPUs, GPUs, FPGAs, switching fabric, cellular modems, etc stuff that the EU uses and imports a lot but has no domestic players in.

In that regard yes, the EU semi industry is kind of a wasteland, considering how big the EU and how small its semi industry is.

Re: Communication on European Tech Sovereignty, and an EU Open-Source Strategy

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is stuff happening but I think most of it is addressing side issues (and cannot address some cores outside of an actual USofE, if then). For example, how would that overcome local resistance to new infrastructure or reduce the huge amount of (local) regulations in a significant way?

The US has these issues as well as still has a strong tech sector, you also have to keep in mind a successful outcome for the EU won't be what the US has right now either. You get charts like this floating around the internet: https://postimg.cc/Yh8TPs8g Nearly always presented as a 'dick swinging' look how great we are chart in a EU vs US vs China stand off. However it reveals flaws in the US as well. A successful t…

>A handful of giants is not desired here in the EU

Then explain the giant Airbus. Or the giant VW. Or the giant Siemens. Or the giant Dassault. Or the giant ABB. Or the giant Stellantis. Or the giants Shell and Total. Or the giants BNP Paribas and Santander.

This whole "EU hates giants" trope being repeated on HN is just unfounded cope at EU's failure to scale and grow its newer domestic players to challenge the ones from the US and China, so they spin its weakness and failures as some form of benevolent virtue the EU is doing for the world by not building giant companies, when the truth is it just can't even though the EU would love to have US style giants as they bring in a lot of revenue along with geopolitical soft and hard power the EU is severely lacking ATM. If EU actually hated giants it would break up Airbus, Siemens, Dassault, Stellantis and others into smaller companies for more competition instead of supporting mergers that support its domestic monopolies.

> it's distorting the political system to becoming like Russia. Oligarchy.

It isn't. EU's own domestic giants are good enough at distorting EU politics without being FANG size. See VW political spending after Dieselgate. Or the political spending of the auto sector in general to shape regulations in their favor since they control so many jobs across EU's largest economies.

If you have a corrupt government that gives in to corporate interests, it's not the size of your companies that's the cause, it's the corruption of your elected leaders, since no company is above the government no matter how big it would get, as the government has the courts, police and military which no company can match, which is why companies always bend over to government requests

A Russia style oligarchy comes if the government gets too big, powerful and unaccountable, not from the size of corporations. Putin didn't attack Ukraine because corporate Russian lobbyist paid him to. In fact most Russian businesses, oligarchs and entrepreneurs got absolutely wrecked by Putin's idea to invade Ukraine, they never wanted this because they have more to lose from this.

It's the government that fucks shit up for the people, not the corporations. Big corporations just dance to the tune the government plays.

Re: Communication on European Tech Sovereignty, and an EU Open-Source Strategy

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OK, so a bunch of larger behind-the-times EU tech companies get a few billions over a few years. So what? If they were capable of executing before, they would have been competing already. Some bureaucrat is not going to conjure up desired qualities.
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