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U.S. to dismantle system tracking Atlantic currents that are at risk of collapse

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Re: U.S. to dismantle system tracking Atlantic currents that are at risk of collapse

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This strikes me as one of the recent moves by our political/capital class where they think that if they just remove the information that’s inconvenient for them, people will stop caring and let them do what they want. You only need to listen to the bosses who so many of us work for to know that they think climate change is just an inconvenience in the way of progress. Only time will tell if this strategy will work or not.

Re: U.S. to dismantle system tracking Atlantic currents that are at risk of collapse

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

because it is useful information for the public benefit, and not very expensive.

What does it mean to be not expensive? How much do all the not very expensive endeavors as up to?

Buoys with sensors, CTDs, and satellite data cost mere millions and are often supported by NGOs, indigenous communities, and even schools. They're a good deal, so to speak. We learn tremendous amounts from them, they provide learning opportunities for new scientists, they provide useful data to the transport industry, and so on. These are not things that are too expensive to maintain. These are things you decommission because you're ideologically opposed to them.

Re: U.S. to dismantle system tracking Atlantic currents that are at risk of collapse

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This doesn't really seem relevant, nor does it seem credible that only Democrats are ever tempted to use trickery to make crime rates seem better than they are.

https://abc7news.com/post/report-finds-lack-police-efficienc...

https://abc7.com/post/george-gascon-los-angeles-district-att...

Re: U.S. to dismantle system tracking Atlantic currents that are at risk of collapse

#58
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

because it is useful information for the public benefit, and not very expensive.

What does it mean to be not expensive? How much do all the not very expensive endeavors as up to?

honestly, who gives a shit?

the US spends AT LEAST $1T/year on military—and a lot of that is used to murder a lot of innocent people just minding their own business. Cut the military budget in half to start and then complain about reckless spending.

I’ll also add: abruptly killing programs costs more than it saves. The DOGE fiasco at USAID for example—the unruly unwinding of their finances incurred huge financial penalties. (I listened to an interview with a USAID whistleblower. It may have been interest payments?)

These ignorant and greedy billionaires destroying the people’s government based on vibes… a sick joke.

Re: U.S. to dismantle system tracking Atlantic currents that are at risk of collapse

#59
post #11

I hate this timeline

For real. Cant fix stupid. Its so sad.

Assuming the interlocutor is stupid, at any scale, 1-1 to the whole of american politics probably just highlight that you don't fully grasp their point of view, because then it wouldn't be stupid. You'd be able to explain it to them and get them to see the matter from your perspective. If you can't do that, then you don't know you're right, you might be, but there's no way for you to know, truly.
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