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What I've learned about the trombone

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Re: What I've learned about the trombone

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One of my favourite albums is Stuart Dempster's Underground Overlays From The Cistern Chapel. A group of trombonists all playing in a giant underground water tank with incredibly long reverb. https://youtube.com/watch?v=4tvMp4XDICU

That is awesome! Back in the '90s I participated in Tuba Christmas in NYC - I played sousaphone. The performance was on the Rockefeller Center ice rink, but the rehearsal was in the sub-sub basement parking garages of 30 Rock (I think).

Imagine hundreds of low brass players activating this enclosed volume of air - I've never experienced anything like it before or since!

Re: What I've learned about the trombone

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post #51

I think you'll enjoy this: an acoustically-accurate trombone in the web browser. https://github.com/bignimbus/trombone.js

Doesn't really sound like a trombone?

There are limits to the web audio API :) but I did conform to the known waveforms of the trombone when setting the synthesizer values. The frequencies and proportions of the slides and partials are very precise!

Re: What I've learned about the trombone

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

JS Bach did not use a piano either. Because so much of music was written around the organ (e.g. vocal music sung in tune with a church organ) tuning was what it was. The well tempered clavier is exceptional because it is an exception to the vast majority of JS Bach’s work.

Organs are and were tuned all the time. While he didn't have a piano, the organ was tempered in some way. His well tempered clavier was a plea to give him organs that could play in any key. We don't know what temperament he used (there is plenty of debate), but it is clear he was trying to show how the key in his system changes the sound/mood of the piece - something lost in equal temperament.

By "tuning was what it was" I did not mean that JS Bach's organs were out of tune with themselves. But rather the obvious thing that pipe organs can't be retuned to arbitrary temperaments in a practical manner.

And to be clear, Well Tempered Clavier is generally believed to have been written for harpsichord not organ. There is not more evidence that it was a plea than that it was simply JS Bach writing experimental music for the latest technology.

Re: What I've learned about the trombone

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There’s also a ‘trigger trombone’ variant, where pulling a trigger routes the air through more tubing, bringing a different pitch. Source: I’m a sponsor of the trombone arts. My kid played trombone in high school.

More formally that's an "F attachment", lowering the key of the instrument (assuming a standard tenor trombone) from B♭ to F. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trombone#Valve_attachments

See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brass_instrument#Trigger_or_th...

Re: What I've learned about the trombone

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Organs are and were tuned all the time. While he didn't have a piano, the organ was tempered in some way. His well tempered clavier was a plea to give him organs that could play in any key. We don't know what temperament he used (there is plenty of debate), but it is clear he was trying to show how the key in his system changes the sound/mood of the piece - something lost in equal temperament.

By "tuning was what it was" I did not mean that JS Bach's organs were out of tune with themselves. But rather the obvious thing that pipe organs can't be retuned to arbitrary temperaments in a practical manner. And to be clear, Well Tempered Clavier is generally believed to have been written for harpsichord not organ. There is not more evidence that it was a plea than that it was simply JS Bach writing experimental m…

Granted tuning an organ is an all day (or even multi-day) problem, but it is perfectly possible to change temperament. Tuning a piano to change temperament will take a skilled tuner some time as well.

harpsichord - I knew that, but couldn't think of the right instrument...

Re: What I've learned about the trombone

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The trumpet, french horn, tuba, and euphonium also rely on the tuning slide to control pitch, so that's not an accurate statement.

Indeed, a trumpet has one slide for tuning only and two more slides that are used while playing, so it's not even technically correct.

Your trumpet maybe, but my trumpet from 1957 only has tuning slides, which cannot be used while playing.
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