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Re: Roku LT Operating System open source distribution

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Post by nwah1 »

miki123211 wrote: post #44
riedel wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The original idea of open source or rather free software is to bmactually "own" the code in a way that you can modify it to your needs. Guess this is not the case here, then. But I guess also most of android falls in that category that by now. I guess we should be using better,more attributes when describing open source

There's at least: source available - whether you can read the code open source - whether you can run (a modified version of) the code on some piece of hardware you own open hardware - whether the hardware they sell you lets you run modified versions of their code open contribution - whether they want your modifications free software - whether your modifications have to be open source too If it's at least source avail…

open hardware to me means that you have access to all of the specifications for building the hardware. Things like when the laptop company Framework posts github repos full of CAD models. Or, initiatives like RISC V.

And, alongside that, there's also open firmware.

Unlocked hardware is maybe what I would call hardware that enables swapping out the software. Although, historically, we didn't even need a term for that, because that was the default aside from outliers like Apple.

Re: Roku LT Operating System open source distribution

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Post by blackjack_ »

FloatArtifact wrote: post #15

Open source all you want! It doesn't change the fact that they're spying the contents of your screen no matter what input is being used with Automatic Content Recognition (ACR) technology https://docs.roku.com/published/acrservicepolicy/en/CA

Yeahhhh I had to disconnect mine from the internet due to this (I don’t want a display ad on the menu screen when I turn on my TV like WTF, my TV just enshittified itself randomly with an update that added this a year or two ago). Which would be fine but you can’t change the TV menu tile layout if you are disconnected from the internet… Just incredible layers of design stupidity here.

Re: Roku LT Operating System open source distribution

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Post by rdschouw »

mijoharas wrote: post #34
ornornor wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Samsung does that too and use it to sell you stuff, show you ads, and retarget you across devices! (Not saying it’s a good thing, but rather pointing out how common this is)

I'm really sick of the enshittification of smart TV's. A while after I've had my LG TV, and found every arcane different menu you need to remove all the ads. They started sending me ads via the notification pop-up. This continued even after finding and removing the consent for advertising (that I'd missed in one of the consent pop-ups.) I've considered and looked into "dumb" TVs, but I don't think they're for me. I j…

Why not disconnect your smart TV from the internet and use [insert favorite streaming box]?

I use Apple TVs on all my smart TVs and none of them have ever been connected to the internet. No ads with consistent interface across TV brands.

Re: Roku LT Operating System open source distribution

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Post by mik3y »

phantomathkg wrote: post #16
aturek wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Brightscript could have been worse! And much, much better, as well

How could it be better? Brightscript is a proprietary language that serves nothing but a low power STB.

    > How could it be better?
On a purely language basis, I'd start with the things the BrighterScript [1] folks have done to clean up the warts and inconveniences of the language.

Personally I'd rather it not exist. Roku would be more pleasant to develop on had they chosen a more popular, existing language as the basis (e.g. Python). Then the task of developing for the platform ~mostly reduces from "learn a new language and a new framework" to just the latter.

I suppose it hasn't inhibited their success, of course.

    [1] https://github.com/rokucommunity/brighterscript

Re: Roku LT Operating System open source distribution

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Post by latchkey »

UnreachableCode wrote: post #47

On the topic that will likely pervade this news item: does anyone know the best FOSS TV system

I know it isn't FOSS, but I just plug a $500 Mac mini into my LG TV and use it with a wireless backlit keyboard/trackpad combo I got for $35 off the zon. IINA is a fantastic player. I rarely use the tv os.

Re: Roku LT Operating System open source distribution

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Post by snapplebobapple »

mijoharas wrote: post #34
ornornor wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Samsung does that too and use it to sell you stuff, show you ads, and retarget you across devices! (Not saying it’s a good thing, but rather pointing out how common this is)

I'm really sick of the enshittification of smart TV's. A while after I've had my LG TV, and found every arcane different menu you need to remove all the ads. They started sending me ads via the notification pop-up. This continued even after finding and removing the consent for advertising (that I'd missed in one of the consent pop-ups.) I've considered and looked into "dumb" TVs, but I don't think they're for me. I j…

the only good smart tv is one with no network connection. As long as the manufacturer has any control of the compute on your device they will always be pressured to abuse it to grow revenue. You need to budget 200 to 600 additional dollars for a linux box and use that

Re: Roku LT Operating System open source distribution

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Post by thesuitonym »

snapplebobapple wrote: post #56
mijoharas wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm really sick of the enshittification of smart TV's. A while after I've had my LG TV, and found every arcane different menu you need to remove all the ads. They started sending me ads via the notification pop-up. This continued even after finding and removing the consent for advertising (that I'd missed in one of the consent pop-ups.) I've considered and looked into "dumb" TVs, but I don't think they're for me. I j…

the only good smart tv is one with no network connection. As long as the manufacturer has any control of the compute on your device they will always be pressured to abuse it to grow revenue. You need to budget 200 to 600 additional dollars for a linux box and use that

That's still not good. I recently switched from a Sceptre dumb TV to a top of the line LG OLED model, and it is sooooo slow. Everything takes forever because it's got to wait for the network connection which doesn't exist, play all its stupid animations, run the "AI" bullshit, and attempt an internet connection again.

Re: Roku LT Operating System open source distribution

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Post by thesuitonym »

mijoharas wrote: post #34
ornornor wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Samsung does that too and use it to sell you stuff, show you ads, and retarget you across devices! (Not saying it’s a good thing, but rather pointing out how common this is)

I'm really sick of the enshittification of smart TV's. A while after I've had my LG TV, and found every arcane different menu you need to remove all the ads. They started sending me ads via the notification pop-up. This continued even after finding and removing the consent for advertising (that I'd missed in one of the consent pop-ups.) I've considered and looked into "dumb" TVs, but I don't think they're for me. I j…

Is it really enshittification if it was shit from the beginning?

Re: Roku LT Operating System open source distribution

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Post by thesuitonym »

FloatArtifact wrote: post #15

Open source all you want! It doesn't change the fact that they're spying the contents of your screen no matter what input is being used with Automatic Content Recognition (ACR) technology https://docs.roku.com/published/acrservicepolicy/en/CA

Actually they don't want to open source it. This is the result of a lawsuit.

Re: Roku LT Operating System open source distribution

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Post by thesuitonym »

imglorp wrote: post #39
FloatArtifact wrote: post #15

Open source all you want! It doesn't change the fact that they're spying the contents of your screen no matter what input is being used with Automatic Content Recognition (ACR) technology https://docs.roku.com/published/acrservicepolicy/en/CA

Is this their dongles, TVs, or both?

Both, and the speakerbars. Roku's business model is not selling hardware.
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