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Now AI agents need what RSS does

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Re: Now AI agents need what RSS does

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post #48

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Europe IP address has no effect on the User Agent block though...

Yeah I know and agree, just wondering if something is haywire in that logic somehow. Otherwise it’s a bizarre issue but I’ll get it fixed

Glad to hear, and neat site. Cool to see new Ruby on Rails sites. Thought I was the only one still loving it. ;)

Re: Now AI agents need what RSS does

#53

I have this idea, that instead of browsing completely random things on the internet pushed by what other people are interested in (or want to promote), create an llm that scans through your backlog of projects YOU want to do, and then search the internet for projects/articles about those things, and then create a feed from that. I'm not sure why I keep reading HN, 99% of the content is uninteresting, probably 99.9% n…

This is going to happen, but it's too expensive for your LLM to do the scanning, and instead someone needs to build and maintain the index while allowing other people to subscribe to concepts. The problem is no one has sorted out the embedding space this all lives in.

Re: Now AI agents need what RSS does

#54

Re: Rate Limits, see https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2024/05/27/feed/ but coming from an aggressively anticommercial world view. She collects evidence that real world feed readers don't implement RSS correctly https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2026/02/23/readers/ Her problems are the problems of a polling-based protocol and really if she does not like the RSS protocol she should stop publishing it and stand up an ActivityPub…

> Her problems are the problems of a polling-based protocol and really if she does not like the RSS protocol she should stop publishing it and stand up an ActivityPub or PubSubHubBub service instead. Bit odd to take potshots at a third party blog on this discussion, why single out Rachel? And more to the point, the dynamics here might be due to RSS being polling-based, but if feed readers implemented the RSS logic co…

(1) Rachel complains more than most. Most people realize it is easier for you to speed up your server/lower your costs than to expect people to implement RSS "correctly"

(2) You can use a cache or be correct, pick one! I think of all the lame cache busting methods that are still in use because it took web browsers more than 15 years to get caching mostly right.

(3) If you'd been reading Rachel as opposed to asking why I pointed Rachel out your questions would be answered!

(4) Polling based systems come in two speeds: too fast and too slow and it is possible to be both at the same time

Re: Now AI agents need what RSS does

#55

>RSS was declared dead in 2013 Where? Not within the homelab space.

They probably meant it hyperbolically, but RSS was on a downward slope during that period. The recent uptick is fascinating. https://trends.google.com/explore?q=%2Fm%2F0n5tx&date=all&ge...

>The recent uptick is fascinating

With US techs harvesting people's data, subscription mess, cars that are no longer cars but computers on wheel, and now AI, even folks with bare minimal knowledge are self hosting things.

All you need is a second hand dirty cheap Dell SFF computer from eBay, install Proxmox on it and even if it comes with only 8GB, you can still spin up a few Proxmox LXC containers (small like Docker but far better).

People are going back to buying physical media, old model of things, wired headphones is all time high.

MP3 players are all time high, no phone, no subscription, just music.

90s, early 2000s is so back and is a good thing, people themselves are putting a hard break on technology.

Re: Now AI agents need what RSS does

#56
I wouldn't limit it to RSS. They need any structured data (JSON, XML/RSS, CSV etc.).

Systems and agents need to monitor and extract public web content into fresh structured data for their ingestion, intelligence workflows and analysis.

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Re: Now AI agents need what RSS does

#57
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That’s…bizarre. Let me take a look EDIT: just checked in firefox, I don't see an issue. can you email me at me@dchuk.com and maybe I can debug with you?

I just noticed the same thing. UA being blocked for example: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:140.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/140.0 Did mess with it some more: Allowed: Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 6.1; U; zh-tw) Presto/2.7.62 Version/11.01 Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; cs) Presto/2.7.62 Version/11.01 406: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/14.0 Opera/12.0 Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 1…

Figured it out, had a random block of Firefox versions less than 147 in my ApplicationController for some reason. Of course my home internet went down though so I’ll push in a few.

Re: Now AI agents need what RSS does

#58

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> Her problems are the problems of a polling-based protocol and really if she does not like the RSS protocol she should stop publishing it and stand up an ActivityPub or PubSubHubBub service instead. Bit odd to take potshots at a third party blog on this discussion, why single out Rachel? And more to the point, the dynamics here might be due to RSS being polling-based, but if feed readers implemented the RSS logic co…

(1) Rachel complains more than most. Most people realize it is easier for you to speed up your server/lower your costs than to expect people to implement RSS "correctly" (2) You can use a cache or be correct, pick one! I think of all the lame cache busting methods that are still in use because it took web browsers more than 15 years to get caching mostly right. (3) If you'd been reading Rachel as opposed to asking wh…

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Re: Now AI agents need what RSS does

#59
post #57

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I just noticed the same thing. UA being blocked for example: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:140.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/140.0 Did mess with it some more: Allowed: Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 6.1; U; zh-tw) Presto/2.7.62 Version/11.01 Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; cs) Presto/2.7.62 Version/11.01 406: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/14.0 Opera/12.0 Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 1…

Figured it out, had a random block of Firefox versions less than 147 in my ApplicationController for some reason. Of course my home internet went down though so I’ll push in a few.

ok this should now be fixed!

Re: Now AI agents need what RSS does

#60

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> Her problems are the problems of a polling-based protocol and really if she does not like the RSS protocol she should stop publishing it and stand up an ActivityPub or PubSubHubBub service instead. Bit odd to take potshots at a third party blog on this discussion, why single out Rachel? And more to the point, the dynamics here might be due to RSS being polling-based, but if feed readers implemented the RSS logic co…

(1) Rachel complains more than most. Most people realize it is easier for you to speed up your server/lower your costs than to expect people to implement RSS "correctly" (2) You can use a cache or be correct, pick one! I think of all the lame cache busting methods that are still in use because it took web browsers more than 15 years to get caching mostly right. (3) If you'd been reading Rachel as opposed to asking wh…

"Rael"

(1) is gender-proportionate

(2) Helps people to see that the phenom is more general. applies to any quasisocial SaaS that has an underappreciated hardtech moat or 90% learn-by-doing experts go for suboptimal tradeoffs which noobs would never consider.

(3) Maybe "complains" should be "insists", or even softer "maintains"

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