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Larry Ellison: "Citizens will be on their best behavior because we’re recording"

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Re: Larry Ellison: "Citizens will be on their best behavior because we’re recording"

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You can understand why - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgpqeq82rvo They bought a country for pocket change. Jeff will be president within 20 years imo.

> Jeff will be president within 20 years imo. It could be worse, it could be Musk. Having seen what Americans will vote for, either option is possible.

every time this comes up I feel it's worth reminding people that this already happened before in American history - 1890's and the robber baron industrialists that monopolized everything.

Re: Larry Ellison: "Citizens will be on their best behavior because we’re recording"

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I think some of that is just Larry Ellison

And Google, Meta, etc. None of the big companies habe your interests at heart.

What a strange thing to say. Why would they? Do you have their interest at heart? Do you have the average persons interest at heart? Again: Why would you? That's by definition not how interests work. And that is roughly fine (albeit a kinder universe would be nice).

Re: Larry Ellison: "Citizens will be on their best behavior because we’re recording"

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What really gets to me is how big tech isn't even pretending anymore to serve society. They clearly feel superior to the rest of us and entitled to rule.

Power corrupts. It’s one of the most predictable effects throughout human history. It’s interesting because it doesn’t seem like it needs to be intrinsic to power, and yet every time someone gains it they eventually become corrupt.

It's so frustrating because even the notionally good actors look at this and think "yeah but it's not gonna corrupt me"

No you fuck, the only way to walk the good path is to give up power and never let it concentrate again.

Larry Ellison of course is one of the most anti human people on the planet and I doubt he was ever anything else.

Re: Larry Ellison: "Citizens will be on their best behavior because we’re recording"

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I think some of that is just Larry Ellison

There's definitely people who blindly praise and romanticize China and ignore how dystopian all the monitoring systems there are, there is essentially no privacy. Even chat apps are infiltrated or Chinese run in some way, shape, or form.

usually people romanticize china when they're comparing it to the united states. are chat apps in the US not infiltrated or run by america?

Re: Larry Ellison: "Citizens will be on their best behavior because we’re recording"

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You can’t have mass immigration from mainly economic migrants from the third world, under funded police forces, and a legal system built for high trust, highly educated, fairly homogeneous populace at the same time; and expect things to be all happy days.

Re: Larry Ellison: "Citizens will be on their best behavior because we’re recording"

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If they were just recording and it required human labor to interpret it would merely be a traditional regime of totalitarian repression. But this tech allows real time interpretation. Imagine that a stalwart ideologue gets to decide what behavior constitutes hate, and to dispatch enforcement before you can finish rolling your eyes. This is what makes me fear Ilya Sutskever's warning of an infinitely stable dictatorship. It's not clear that gravity well can be escaped.
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