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The placeholder name for the Windows 8 experience was "modern"

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Re: The placeholder name for the Windows 8 experience was "modern"

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

usermac wrote: post #11

A bit off-topic but I super enjoyed the UI on the Windows Phones at the time. Only topped by the WebOS from Palm even before it I recall.

It was a great UI for mobile. It just was a terrible UI for a real computer, so people reacted badly to Microsoft trying to force it in there. Mobile devices and normal computers have very different UI needs, and you can't simply paste one onto the other - something Microsoft should've learned from their failed attempts to make a tablet with the older Windows UI.

Re: The placeholder name for the Windows 8 experience was "modern"

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Post by extraduder_ire »

deburo wrote: post #33
usui wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean? Fast Ethernet is fast, and it'll stay that way forever! It's in the name! 100 Mbit/s!

Or USB: - USB 2.0: High-Speed USB - USB 3.0: Super-Speed USB The marketing names are often deficient, but at least there's a clear version number attached to it. Microsoft doesn't like version numbers at all.

I do find it funny how Full-Speed USB is 12 Mbit/s.

Re: The placeholder name for the Windows 8 experience was "modern"

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Post by argee »

ahmedfromtunis wrote: post #26

> The ListView control? It started out with the more tedious name “modern collection control”, which got shortened to “MoCo.” A missed opportunity to call it "MoCoCo" which, if you ask me, has more flare and personality to it. What a waste :/

Microsoft must have an unwritten rule to avoid anything that might appear to be even slightly tasteful on their account.

Re: The placeholder name for the Windows 8 experience was "modern"

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Post by joe_mamba »

trollbridge wrote: post #43
joe_mamba wrote: post #27

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Same for me. Windows Phone was super smooth even on budget phones with 1GB/512MB of RAM while Android would have been choppy as hell on such hardware. Also, the Windows 8 tablet mode had better touch and swipe UX than the current Windows 11 when put in tablet mode. What a joke Microslop has become. Nadella needs to clean house or step down. The only thing he executed well was the cloud/hyperscaler side of the busines…

It's a major problem. As present trends continue, eventually nobody is going to need any Microsoft products anymore. I'm already watching clients gradually shift away from Office to simple using Google Workspace, and eventualy they'll do the same with Windows. AWS is the dominant player in cloud hosting. What, exactly, does anyone need Microsoft for anymore?

> As present trends continue, eventually nobody is going to need any Microsoft products anymore.

People have been saying this for about 30 years now. Just like IBM, Apple, Adobe, etc, MS will probably outlive all its haters.

>What, exactly, does anyone need Microsoft for anymore?

Brand recognition? Why do people still buy Mercedes, BMW, Audi, VW when a Hyundai or Dacia does the same thing for cheaper?

Inertia and complacency? Most (non-startup) companies in Germany and Austria are Microsoft shops because that's what they've been using for 20+ years and MS has big customer support and sales teams here that wine and dine them regularly, but unicorn focused HN is oblivious to that.

Re: The placeholder name for the Windows 8 experience was "modern"

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Post by sharts »

azinman2 wrote: post #46
ranger207 wrote: post #45

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My first smartphone was a Windows phone with half a gig of RAM and it's still the best phone I've ever owned in terms of software

What made it so great?

It was as though MS actually built something amazing and Nokia was back to its roots of building solid, well designed phones.

UI was very forward thinking in the right ways. Buttery smooth, etc.

Of course it flopped because a bit late (arguable) so it lacked apps.

No idea why this couldn’t have been brought to android at least as a launcher or provide some kind of support to run Android apps. Just MS being MS —ordinary users/consumers aren’t their primary target in general.

Re: The placeholder name for the Windows 8 experience was "modern"

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Post by trollbridge »

joe_mamba wrote: post #54
trollbridge wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a major problem. As present trends continue, eventually nobody is going to need any Microsoft products anymore. I'm already watching clients gradually shift away from Office to simple using Google Workspace, and eventualy they'll do the same with Windows. AWS is the dominant player in cloud hosting. What, exactly, does anyone need Microsoft for anymore?

> As present trends continue, eventually nobody is going to need any Microsoft products anymore. People have been saying this for about 30 years now. Just like IBM, Apple, Adobe, etc, MS will probably outlive all its haters. >What, exactly, does anyone need Microsoft for anymore? Brand recognition? Why do people still buy Mercedes, BMW, Audi, VW when a Hyundai or Dacia does the same thing for cheaper? Inertia and com…

Hardly anyone is still using IBM OfficeVision, though. Or, for that matter, HCL Notes.

Re: The placeholder name for the Windows 8 experience was "modern"

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Post by joe_mamba »

trollbridge wrote: post #56
joe_mamba wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> As present trends continue, eventually nobody is going to need any Microsoft products anymore. People have been saying this for about 30 years now. Just like IBM, Apple, Adobe, etc, MS will probably outlive all its haters. >What, exactly, does anyone need Microsoft for anymore? Brand recognition? Why do people still buy Mercedes, BMW, Audi, VW when a Hyundai or Dacia does the same thing for cheaper? Inertia and com…

Hardly anyone is still using IBM OfficeVision, though. Or, for that matter, HCL Notes.

Who said anything about that? IBM does consultancy like nobody else.

Also IBM still makes PowerPC CPUs and mainframes and those are still selling to niche customers who don't trust the cloud.

Microsoft will have its niche too if it flops.

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