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Re: Why Gentoo?

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Gentoo veterans should remember this one: https://www.shlomifish.org/humour/by-others/funroll-loops/Ge...

This is the exact article I thought of when I saw this headline. I'm surprised it's still around.

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Re: Why Gentoo?

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What kinda baby would come from mashing together gentoo, void, freebsd, and nix?

nixos is already, from a certain perspective, an exotic take on gentoo. take away cache.nixos.org and it becomes a source-based distro. it's not even too out-of-the-question to do traditionally gentoo stuff like globally set -funroll-loops -O3 and rebuild your whole system, but the operational benefit of staying standard is getting to use binary caches since reproducibility lets them substitute transparently for loca…

The sandboxed build environment was a side effect of being able to bootstrap on another distro. The "claim to fame" was a fast package manager.

Except there's Chimera Linux now (not related to chimeraOS) and I dare say its got the fastest package manager of all operating systems with a package manager.

Re: Why Gentoo?

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post #15

I've been using Gentoo since 2003, and I don't really plan on changing any time soon... > We don’t go out of our way to tell you how to use your system I'm not really sure I believe this, because the default profiles do exactly that. One day you'll be happy with your pam config, then bam, package updates and you're forced into passwdqc and faillock.

> One day you'll be happy with your pam config, then bam, package updates and you're forced into passwdqc and faillock. Are you saying you've had your PAM config broken by a package update when you didn't update anything in /etc, or that you had your PAM config broken by a package update where you blindly accepted changes to stuff in /etc?

Both, really. Pam is a very annoying piece of software to deal with... if you configure it wrong, you'll either lock everyone out, or let everyone in regardless of what password they use. If you’re using a central LDAP server, and accidentally compile out LDAP support, you'll probably lose access to that machine pretty quickly. Any time I upgrade pam/shadow, I have a root window open and ready to save my butt after something goes sideways.

Honestly, I hate Pam. It's one of the few pieces of software on Linux that desperately needs a replacement that isn't just a clone of the original. (nss also needs the boot)

If you want an idea of how bad things are, buy a copy of Michael W Lucas' FreeBSD Pam mastery...

Re: Why Gentoo?

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I think it's time to use an LLM to rewrite portage in C. Might be one of my next projects. Should not take long and the result will be easy to deterministically test side by side.

Rust or Go please.

If emerge were Rewritten In Rust, it could be called 'remerge'.

Re: Why Gentoo?

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I have not had the, ahem, privelege yet of installing Gentoo. I gave up on Linux a while back after I bricked my computer because I missed an update on Arch Linux (no joke). Got a macbook and I’ve been happy ever since…well, at least until I was trying to shareplay Mulholland Drive with my girlfriend while she’s out of town and discovered that the only way to manually adjust audio levels of facetime vs, say, the movi…

Check out Fedora Asahi Remix. Runs on M series macs, you keep your regular MacOS install the same. Installed from terminal, runs great.

Before I switched, I did really like the piracy scene. Soundsource, the software you mentioned, was definitely one of the first I got.

Now, I think there's an open source MacOS volume manager thing.

Edit. I think it's this: https://github.com/ronitsingh10/FineTune

Re: Why Gentoo?

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> For example, we are probably one of the few distributions that do not amend our bzip2 package with a nonstandard pkg-config file; so if you develop on Gentoo, you won’t make the absurdly common mistake of publishing a package that requires that file. What's this in reference to?

They might be referring to deb files, which are like zip files with extra junk inside. Or possibly another format, apks on android are kindof the same way.

Re: Why Gentoo?

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I have not had the, ahem, privelege yet of installing Gentoo. I gave up on Linux a while back after I bricked my computer because I missed an update on Arch Linux (no joke). Got a macbook and I’ve been happy ever since…well, at least until I was trying to shareplay Mulholland Drive with my girlfriend while she’s out of town and discovered that the only way to manually adjust audio levels of facetime vs, say, the movi…

> I gave up on Linux a while back after I bricked my computer because I missed an update on Arch Linux (no joke)

if you did not want a high maintenance distro why choose Arch? Its meant for the opposite of a Mac user - people who want to control everything, vs people who want it all taken care of for them. There are lots of things in the middle.

> I don’t have time to futz around installing Linux distros instead of getting laid like I did as a teenager.

Install one and resist the temptation to distro-hop. Even better, buy a machine with Linux preinstalled.

Re: Why Gentoo?

#59
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> One day you'll be happy with your pam config, then bam, package updates and you're forced into passwdqc and faillock. Are you saying you've had your PAM config broken by a package update when you didn't update anything in /etc, or that you had your PAM config broken by a package update where you blindly accepted changes to stuff in /etc?

Both, really. Pam is a very annoying piece of software to deal with... if you configure it wrong, you'll either lock everyone out, or let everyone in regardless of what password they use. If you’re using a central LDAP server, and accidentally compile out LDAP support, you'll probably lose access to that machine pretty quickly. Any time I upgrade pam/shadow, I have a root window open and ready to save my butt after s…

> or let everyone in regardless of what password they use

Learned that lesson, oof. Taught me a few things about writing tests that I carry around with me though.

Re: Why Gentoo?

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I have not had the, ahem, privelege yet of installing Gentoo. I gave up on Linux a while back after I bricked my computer because I missed an update on Arch Linux (no joke). Got a macbook and I’ve been happy ever since…well, at least until I was trying to shareplay Mulholland Drive with my girlfriend while she’s out of town and discovered that the only way to manually adjust audio levels of facetime vs, say, the movi…

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