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Usability expert tears apart Windows 8

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Re: Usability expert tears apart Windows 8

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Post by bunderbunder »

zaidf wrote: post #2

At the end, this is what matters: I have great hopes for Windows 9 on mobile and tablets. Just as Windows 7 was “Vista Done Right,” it’s quite likely that the touchscreen version of Windows 9 will be “Windows 8 Done Right.” I’ll stay with Win7 the next few years and hope for better times with Windows 9. One great thing about Microsoft is that they do have a history of correcting their mistakes.

At the same time, Windows 7 initially had an uphill battle in the market because consumers associated it with Vista. I even know a couple people who are still on XP because, in part, of their feelings about Vista.

I fear Windows 9 might experience the same thing because of Windows 8. It would have been much better if they had just delayed Windows 8 just a bit longer. Perhaps release it for tablets in the time frame they did, and then take a little bit longer to work on the desktop version. I know there was a real need to hurry and get some tablets out on the market, Windows 7 is still new enough that it could have remained the main OS for desktop PCs for another 6-12 months.

Re: Usability expert tears apart Windows 8

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Post by yuhong »

bunderbunder wrote: post #51
zaidf wrote: post #2

At the end, this is what matters: I have great hopes for Windows 9 on mobile and tablets. Just as Windows 7 was “Vista Done Right,” it’s quite likely that the touchscreen version of Windows 9 will be “Windows 8 Done Right.” I’ll stay with Win7 the next few years and hope for better times with Windows 9. One great thing about Microsoft is that they do have a history of correcting their mistakes.

At the same time, Windows 7 initially had an uphill battle in the market because consumers associated it with Vista. I even know a couple people who are still on XP because, in part, of their feelings about Vista. I fear Windows 9 might experience the same thing because of Windows 8. It would have been much better if they had just delayed Windows 8 just a bit longer. Perhaps release it for tablets in the time frame t…

"At the same time, Windows 7 initially had an uphill battle in the market because consumers associated it with Vista."

Reminds me of Server "2008 R2".

"I even know a couple people who are still on XP because, in part, of their feelings about Vista."

Not to mention organizations too where deployments takes time. Reminds me of NT4 end of support.

Re: Usability expert tears apart Windows 8

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Post by gurkendoktor »

mark_integerdsv wrote: post #47
gurkendoktor wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What did MS not get with Windows 95/2000/XP/7? I don't think the "tick-tock model" of Windows releases is reliable, after such a big and confused change as Windows 8, I find it very likely that Windows 9 will be released to better reviews.

I see your 95/XP/2000/7 and raise you ME/Vista/8... perhaps I have been a little selective, or perhaps the word 'history' is a iittle vague, I think my point is clear though and IMO well supported... by history.

Yes, exactly - that is why the original citation makes sense :) ME & Vista sucked, but the next versions were great. There is no long-term tendency towards suckiness, it's more like a rollercoaster, and that's why waiting for Windows 9 is a solid decision IMHO.

Re: Usability expert tears apart Windows 8

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Post by mark_integerdsv »

gurkendoktor wrote: post #53
mark_integerdsv wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see your 95/XP/2000/7 and raise you ME/Vista/8... perhaps I have been a little selective, or perhaps the word 'history' is a iittle vague, I think my point is clear though and IMO well supported... by history.

Yes, exactly - that is why the original citation makes sense :) ME & Vista sucked, but the next versions were great. There is no long-term tendency towards suckiness, it's more like a rollercoaster, and that's why waiting for Windows 9 is a solid decision IMHO.

Yes, this is the freaking issue! People have to use this abberation formthe next few years!

How is the fact that it might get better any form of comfort whatsoever?

This is battered woman logic at it's finest... I really cannot understand how you could argue that it's all honky-dory brcause it's been hideous before but it got better, so just knuckle under for now and it should be ok at some uncertain point in the future.

Re: Usability expert tears apart Windows 8

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Post by gurkendoktor »

mark_integerdsv wrote: post #54
gurkendoktor wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, exactly - that is why the original citation makes sense :) ME & Vista sucked, but the next versions were great. There is no long-term tendency towards suckiness, it's more like a rollercoaster, and that's why waiting for Windows 9 is a solid decision IMHO.

Yes, this is the freaking issue! People have to use this abberation formthe next few years! How is the fact that it might get better any form of comfort whatsoever? This is battered woman logic at it's finest... I really cannot understand how you could argue that it's all honky-dory brcause it's been hideous before but it got better, so just knuckle under for now and it should be ok at some uncertain point in the fut…

No, because nobody has to use Windows 8 for the next 8+ years. There is absolutely no obligation to. Just like nobody ever had to use Vista or ME. From the OP-

> I’ll stay with Win7 the next few years and hope for better times with Windows 9

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