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Re: Training our own AI models

#52
post #32

What a great reminder to build my own analytics and self host. PostHog just lost a customer. They could easily send a email to each customer asking if we want this. The assumption means they have no product intuition about their own customers, let alone the customers of their customers. Bye.

Not trying to be snarky but why not just opt out instead of vibe coding your own analytics platform? I'm uncomfortable with people using my data to train AI, but those concerns revolve around where my data goes, and whether I'm notified/aware. Posthog is giving me good answers to those questions here.

It has to do with the priorities of the company and its leadership. Either they lack the basic awareness to know that training on your business customers data will likely leak their sensitive information to their competitors, or they just intend to sell that data. We are not paying to have our data stolen.

Re: Training our own AI models

#53
post #9

“Opt-in by default” is an oxymoron. If it’s default then I haven’t opted into anything. It’s been enabled by default.

Very true. I was considering PostHog, but this sours them in my eyes. Very deceptive wording.

They could’ve done a lot worse, and most companies would’ve.

Re: Training our own AI models

#55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Defaults matter. Opt-in vs opt-out organ donorship has a large impact. Most people on any web app won’t stray from the defaults.

I sincerely hope this never comes to pass, but you or your loved ones may someday find themselves in the position of wishing more people were opted in for organ donation. The same cannot be said for some random corporation training AI models off your data to make a buck or two.

I think it might be better to get rid of the organ *donation* system entirely.

Organ transplant surgery costs hundreds of thousands of dollars, yet donors get zilch, which is completely unfair when everyone else in the value chain gets paid.

If instead it was "allow my organs to be sold for my estate" I think the supply of organs would greatly increase, which would be win/win.

Re: Training our own AI models

#59
post #28

Thanks for posting. I had been in the fence for the past few months of switching. The new AI products combined with the weird UIs had been irking me for a while. This is the final nail in the coffin. Opt-in is a terrible business model imo.

Agreed. While I don't entirely care enough to rip it out of any existing products, I certainly won't be adding it to any new ones.

I remember people cheering about their "OS" web redesign, which was the most confusing and unnecessary UX complication when I needed to go track down a session replay to debug something (They've since added navigation to the top right.)

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