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Re: Last.fm is now independent

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Post by AlexandrB »

wldcordeiro wrote: post #42
ale wrote: post #6

Man i love last.fm even though it's been technically superseded (for most people) by Spotify's recommendation features. It just fit so well in the zeitgeist of 2000's indie scene, microblogs, early social media.

I don't think the recommendation engines behind Spotify, Youtube Music, etc compare to the recommendations I got from last.fm over the years. The algorithmic ones seem to have a bunch of issues that bug me as a long time music listener and someone with a large music library. - their memory is short as hell so you can listen to something for a while, stop and then it'll suggest it to you later as something to "discove…

I'm 90% sure that music labels pay to "put their thumbs on the scales" with these recommendation algorithms in order to push their "hot" artists. I wonder how many of these problems are a result of that.

Re: Last.fm is now independent

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Post by esskay »

_-_-__-_-_- wrote: post #32

Listenbrainz has been an excellent alternative for me.

Downside of it is like all Metabrainz projects they seem to intentionally go and make everything as utterly ugly as possible. It feels like someone there intentionally thinks up ways to make the worst UX possible.

Re: Last.fm is now independent

#53

Post by Semaphor »

Another alternative is listenbrainz [0], which is also self-hostable [1]. A smaller, lightweight, single user selfhostable alternative, and more about just the stats is Koito [2], and finally because obviously you want to scrobble everywhere at once, you can self-host Multi Scrobbler to scrobble to and from multiple sources at once. Yes, I like scrobbling ;)

[0]: https://listenbrainz.org/

[1]: https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-server

[2]: https://github.com/gabehf/Koito/

[3]: https://github.com/FoxxMD/multi-scrobbler/

Re: Last.fm is now independent

#54

Post by retired »

wldcordeiro wrote: post #42
ale wrote: post #6

Man i love last.fm even though it's been technically superseded (for most people) by Spotify's recommendation features. It just fit so well in the zeitgeist of 2000's indie scene, microblogs, early social media.

I don't think the recommendation engines behind Spotify, Youtube Music, etc compare to the recommendations I got from last.fm over the years. The algorithmic ones seem to have a bunch of issues that bug me as a long time music listener and someone with a large music library. - their memory is short as hell so you can listen to something for a while, stop and then it'll suggest it to you later as something to "discove…

I switched to Apple Music to save some money and I find the curation and the recommendations to be significantly better than Spotify.

Re: Last.fm is now independent

#55

Post by dfee »

Unfortunately, unable to create an account on my laptop (WiFi) or phone (Verizon) - even in incognito.

> Your request was blocked

> To protect our website, our security firewall has flagged this request as potentially unsafe.

> Please try clearing your cookies and refreshing the page. > If the problem persists, try again later or on a different computer network.

> Error 406

edit: maybe they saw my message or fixed a bug? signup now works everywhere for me.

Re: Last.fm is now independent

#56

Post by whalesalad »

tomashubelbauer wrote: post #45
whalesalad wrote: post #23

115,000 scrobbles: https://www.last.fm/user/whalesalad I really only ever used it so that a girl I liked would be able to see what I was listening to. She commented on my page. We ended up getting together for a few years. I miss my youth.

I think Last.fm might have been a better friend finding and dating app than any of its contemporaries or anything that came after. Seems like everyone in this thread or anyone I know IRL has a story of making a good connection with someone via it. I know I'll always cherish the people I got to know on there.

Music taste is probably the all time best indicator of compatibility tbh. You can go to shows together. You can jam out in the car together.

Re: Last.fm is now independent

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Post by retired »

whalesalad wrote: post #23

115,000 scrobbles: https://www.last.fm/user/whalesalad I really only ever used it so that a girl I liked would be able to see what I was listening to. She commented on my page. We ended up getting together for a few years. I miss my youth.

I miss the internet of old, where you would meet up with a cute girl you met online and she turned out to be a 39 year old man from Wisconsin.

Re: Last.fm is now independent

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Post by whalesalad »

retired wrote: post #57
whalesalad wrote: post #23

115,000 scrobbles: https://www.last.fm/user/whalesalad I really only ever used it so that a girl I liked would be able to see what I was listening to. She commented on my page. We ended up getting together for a few years. I miss my youth.

I miss the internet of old, where you would meet up with a cute girl you met online and she turned out to be a 39 year old man from Wisconsin.

same tbh

Re: Last.fm is now independent

#59

Post by AdmiralAsshat »

Scene_Cast2 wrote: post #11

I remember Last.fm's value proposition was 1) discovery and 2) community. (1) is (mostly, for most people) covered by "feed" algorithms of Spotify and YouTube. I wonder how they're going to position themselves now.

As someone who used to hang out on various music forums...a human recommendation based on careful analysis of your last.fm scrobbles was infinitely more useful and accurate than anything Pandora/YouTube/Spotify/Tidal ever recommended me. Humans can infer not just what you like, but what you don't like.

Re: Last.fm is now independent

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Post by komali2 »

AlexandrB wrote: post #51
wldcordeiro wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think the recommendation engines behind Spotify, Youtube Music, etc compare to the recommendations I got from last.fm over the years. The algorithmic ones seem to have a bunch of issues that bug me as a long time music listener and someone with a large music library. - their memory is short as hell so you can listen to something for a while, stop and then it'll suggest it to you later as something to "discove…

I'm 90% sure that music labels pay to "put their thumbs on the scales" with these recommendation algorithms in order to push their "hot" artists. I wonder how many of these problems are a result of that.

We can never know for sure if this is or isn't the case, so our only hope for stuff we can be confident isn't this way is with foss / self host able solutions
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