In China the state and corporations can blend so it's difficult to tell the difference between the two. It is known for government sponsored dumping to meet some state goal or another.
This runs counter to the last 50 years of American propaganda espousing the inefficiency of government. If the Chinese government can just throw money at industries and have them flourish, why can't other governments?
Government central planning and industrial policy is always less efficient than free markets. But government can sometimes be more effective in accomplishing critical strategic goals when those are more important than efficiency.
In China the state and corporations can blend so it's difficult to tell the difference between the two. It is known for government sponsored dumping to meet some state goal or another.
This runs counter to the last 50 years of American propaganda espousing the inefficiency of government. If the Chinese government can just throw money at industries and have them flourish, why can't other governments?
The government paying for your output which has nowhere to go is not a flourishing industry.
If my kid starts a lemonade stand and I pay him $500 to dump 20 gallons of lemonade into the sewer, did he run a successful business for a day?
Look into the Chinese ghost cities or US and EU actions against Chinese metals dumping.
So? And Anthropic/OpenAI literally stole copyrighted content to train their models.
The point was that distilling based on others' models for training means they're not spending the same amount on R&D and/or training, giving them headroom in other ways (responding to the parent's point). It wasn't a comment reflecting on copyright/fair use.
In the same fashion, Anthropic/OpenAI also reduced their training cost by not purchasing the license to copyrighted work and stealing it instead.
In China the state and corporations can blend so it's difficult to tell the difference between the two. It is known for government sponsored dumping to meet some state goal or another.
This runs counter to the last 50 years of American propaganda espousing the inefficiency of government. If the Chinese government can just throw money at industries and have them flourish, why can't other governments?
The US government could throw tons of money at everything and get some good results, that doesn't mean it would be efficient. And their system is fundamentally different, I think most westerners would appreciate less efficient AI companies in return for democracy and human rights.
In China the state and corporations can blend so it's difficult to tell the difference between the two. It is known for government sponsored dumping to meet some state goal or another.
This runs counter to the last 50 years of American propaganda espousing the inefficiency of government. If the Chinese government can just throw money at industries and have them flourish, why can't other governments?
Chinese students study like it is Battle Royale Squid Game. Just read up what is Gaokao. And boosted by nearly 1/3 of household income for extra classes. And other study resources. You have that in America but the volume is closer to 500 to 1. This is why before Trump you see American colleges saturated with 20%+ Chinese students. India also the same but the second factor comes in. Proximity. They build universities powerplant factories port airports in cluster. So wastage due to "in between logistics" minimized. And finally everything is way way cheaper in China compare to even cheapest American town. So even if corruption is bad, the underlying structure ensure efficient output multitude higher than peak America. Another country have similar design is Singapore but they lack the talents and resources of China. This can't be replicated in America. American parents don't go nuts spending 30-60% HOUSEHOLD income for education. Most American parents already struggling paying gas and electricity bills. At best they give their children access to TikTok and Snapchat and hint them do sports like Tiger or Beyonce twerking to fame and wealth.
This runs counter to the last 50 years of American propaganda espousing the inefficiency of government. If the Chinese government can just throw money at industries and have them flourish, why can't other governments?
Other governments do, but not as much as China does. Healthcare in South Korea for example is government managed and it is one of the best healthcare in the world. I believe utility companies are also government owned. Also some of the well known companies now were practically government owned during the Park dictatorship in the 70s. I wouldn't use the term "Flourish" as what you hear and see is strictly controlled
Doubt it is best. Taiwan China and Singapore easily better than SKorea. Singapore is more unique where everything is resources tight they still able to create that system.
This runs counter to the last 50 years of American propaganda espousing the inefficiency of government. If the Chinese government can just throw money at industries and have them flourish, why can't other governments?
The government paying for your output which has nowhere to go is not a flourishing industry. If my kid starts a lemonade stand and I pay him $500 to dump 20 gallons of lemonade into the sewer, did he run a successful business for a day? Look into the Chinese ghost cities or US and EU actions against Chinese metals dumping. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underoccupied_developments_in_...
Chinese ghost cities you see online already non ghost cities. Ever wonder why ghost cities topic no longer trending on YT and Twitter? You are 10 years behind the propaganda. Now is more of Xinjiang enslavement even though Chinese factories run without lights using robots. But hey narrative is important to keep population control. Ever wonder what happen to XiaoHongShui access in America? It scare the shit out of government and American media just stop highlighting it.
This runs counter to the last 50 years of American propaganda espousing the inefficiency of government. If the Chinese government can just throw money at industries and have them flourish, why can't other governments?
The Chinese economy is deeply weird from a western perspective. Culture and economics are not orthogonal.
It is basically Tang dynasty with tech and CCP members or politburo running the country instead of just 1 emperor. It is deeply ingrain into Chinese culture for 5 millennia. The closest thing is like American arguing about 1st and the love of guns. We are at around LiSiMin CCP peak China. Hopefully there won't be a repeat of Anlushan like incident. America system is really oligarchy cowboys with private cowboys taking turn running the government supported by other cowboys.
This runs counter to the last 50 years of American propaganda espousing the inefficiency of government. If the Chinese government can just throw money at industries and have them flourish, why can't other governments?
They made their domestic steel industry ‘flourish’ by getting every peasant to make their own steel mills too, and mostly crashed their economies. When things line up and the decisions are decent, top down can be really good. When the decisions are bad, it is exceptionally dramatic failures too. Tofu dregs, etc. Right now, no one has to liquidate so it’s easy to hide the damage though.
You are way behind about China. That was 60s about 60 years ago! Today China is robots. China has way more robots than Japan America and EU all add up together! Their factories run by robots not slaves. You should consider visiting Shenzhen and see for yourself. Or if you are lucky can ask your Chinese friends to register you WeChat and Baidu account and create China version of Rednote XiaoHongShu. That place has uncensored Chinese day to day lifestyle. What you see on America media like YT X FB are heavily censored about China. Things about government is censored. But lifestyle not much. Almost everything in America is censored or fake flooded. You have to be outside of America like in Germany or Indonesia to really see how censored American from what is going on outside of America.