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Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't think people want to live in a fake world. yeah that's why escapist hobbies , movies & video games do so poorly. it's not even 'another world' , it's just a slightly different kind of screen, one that you wear. You get to use it for what you want -- maybe escapism is that thing -- but we'd never say that some beancounter working on an excel sheet is living in a fake world (although you should say that wrt a…

There is a huge difference though, and I say that as someone who started his career as a VR dev. Unless you life fully alone, there is definitely a different level of vulnerability and isolation in effectively blindfolding yourself that is very hard to ignore. Even after months working daily using these devices, it still felt awkward to sink into one in an open plan office. I can't imagine doing it in a living room w…

>> Unless you life fully alone, there is definitely a different level of vulnerability and isolation in effectively blindfolding yourself that is very hard to ignore. Even after months working daily using these devices, it still felt awkward to sink into one in an open plan office. I can't imagine doing it in a living room while your family is around, or near roommates, or a plane.

Tonnes of people live alone. A huge normal of people now work from home. If you're using it as a monitor to work like suggested in the post you're not going to be doing that around family/roommates anyway even on a laptop. You're going to be in a room by yourself.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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post #7

So I was, for about a month. But I had to give it up due to, mainly, compatibility with MAM requirements for work and app quality. It’s so infuriating to me how good this hardware is yet how equally underinvested it is. I do enjoy it when I’m in a work type that is well supported. I would love deeper integration with macOS beyond just screen sharing too. Or alternatively a broader selection of native equivalent apps.…

> There also seems to be an odd standoff between Apple and the streaming apps, eg no native YouTube, Netflix, Spotify, etc Apple made the bed when they openly were hostile to the developers. There's a reason why every platform courts the developers (Remember MS's "developers developers developers"). Apple could get away from being a jerk because the devices were attractive, and the distribution it offered was stellar…

> So they decided to sit out. And cue the fall out.

What's the play ? They may get new customers by making an app for the apple pro, they get nothing if they don't.

I don't the economic interest in waiting.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

#53
post #7

So I was, for about a month. But I had to give it up due to, mainly, compatibility with MAM requirements for work and app quality. It’s so infuriating to me how good this hardware is yet how equally underinvested it is. I do enjoy it when I’m in a work type that is well supported. I would love deeper integration with macOS beyond just screen sharing too. Or alternatively a broader selection of native equivalent apps.…

> There also seems to be an odd standoff between Apple and the streaming apps, eg no native YouTube, Netflix, Spotify, etc Apple made the bed when they openly were hostile to the developers. There's a reason why every platform courts the developers (Remember MS's "developers developers developers"). Apple could get away from being a jerk because the devices were attractive, and the distribution it offered was stellar…

I don't think that's the case at least with video streaming. For example, Netflix refusing to integrate with the Apple TV app on any platform because they don't want to compete with other services (because they don't have the content to compete anymore).

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

#54

I think of the AVP like Steve Jobs once described: headphones for video [0] I use it a few hours a day, a few times a week exclusively as a virtual display for my macbook. Being able to put a huge virtual monitor anywhere is the killer feature and I don't tend to use it for anything else. It's indispensable on flights where laptop lids can't even fully open. Apple got the interactions just about perfect for AR window…

> overall embarrassment

You're right, and it's also why this device is such a non sequitur for Apple. Almost all of their successful products are trendsetting and cool (iPhone, mac, airpods), this is one causes embarrassment and I just don't think it's fixable.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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post #50
post #28

Yes. I spend maybe half of the year (on average) away from home, traveling with my MacBook. I bought the Vision Pro to use as a portable display, and I’ve been extremely happy with it. I work in it about 8 hours per day whenever I’m away from my home office setup, and quite often even when I’m at home. Having an enormous virtual screen is not the only benefit, I also feel that the immersion helps my focus. It’s easie…

Can't imagine how strong your neck must be. For me, the weight alone is a deal breaker.

Why not have a battery externally, attached with a long cable?

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

#58
post #28

Yes. I spend maybe half of the year (on average) away from home, traveling with my MacBook. I bought the Vision Pro to use as a portable display, and I’ve been extremely happy with it. I work in it about 8 hours per day whenever I’m away from my home office setup, and quite often even when I’m at home. Having an enormous virtual screen is not the only benefit, I also feel that the immersion helps my focus. It’s easie…

Have you tried a Quest 3 for similar purposes? Curious how they compare.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

#59
post #41

I'm also curious. I bought the cheap alternative: XReal One Pro and… it is kind of as expected. It is a cheap alternative. Don't expect to use it for coding for several hours a day, in spite of what people keep saying. The optics are not up to it: there are imperfections in the lenses resulting in blurry areas of the screen, very visible as you move your head around. They are great for watching video, make for a fant…

I've been using the XReal One Pros for coding work for a few months now, and have had a great experience.

For me, the ergonomic benefits are the selling point, not the display quality. Not having to sit hunched over a laptop screen for several hours means I can work almost anywhere. Sometimes I'll use it in a cafe. Other times I just lie down in bed. I also make use of speech to text, so I just need to be able to press a hotkey and reach the track pad.

On the topic of display quality, it's important to use Better display to upscale the output to the XReals to high DPI - that gives noticeably better quality when it's downscaled to the (lower) native resolution of the XReals.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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post #58
post #28

Yes. I spend maybe half of the year (on average) away from home, traveling with my MacBook. I bought the Vision Pro to use as a portable display, and I’ve been extremely happy with it. I work in it about 8 hours per day whenever I’m away from my home office setup, and quite often even when I’m at home. Having an enormous virtual screen is not the only benefit, I also feel that the immersion helps my focus. It’s easie…

Have you tried a Quest 3 for similar purposes? Curious how they compare.

I've tried and it's okay with Virtual desktop but the resolution is like on the uncanny line of fine and not good enough.

The quest being much lighter makes it nice though (but you should buy a third party headstrap that doesn't suck)

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