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any solution that depends on everyone agreeing on what content is age appropriate is a bad solution.
California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash
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Re: California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash
#52Okay, let's flip it: why would Apple, Microsoft, etc.. agree with such a law? What would the trickle down be for browser makers and website creators?
Re: California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash
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what do they do? They stop trying to put everything in a different category and treat RTA as the person under the age of consent must get approval from their parent or legal guardian. Keep it simple.
That's too simple to get much adoption. It's unreasonable to expect websites to drop out of Google search.
Google and others can adapt. RTA header? Added to potential adult or user-contributed category.
Re: California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
what do they do? They stop trying to put everything in a different category and treat RTA as the person under the age of consent must get approval from their parent or legal guardian. Keep it simple.
That's too simple to get much adoption. It's unreasonable to expect websites to drop out of Google search.
> It's unreasonable to expect websites to drop out of Google search.
Google's doing that for them though.
Re: California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash
#55The only device mandates that should be taking place is for the default installations of web clients should be checking to see if parental controls are enabled. This only impacts the major browsers. An intern at each browser company could add this check in minutes. If they are enabled and the person logged in is on a regular account (not admin or power user of sorts) then the base installation of web clients must che…
No such mandates should take place at all.
Re: California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash
#56The only device mandates that should be taking place is for the default installations of web clients should be checking to see if parental controls are enabled. This only impacts the major browsers. An intern at each browser company could add this check in minutes. If they are enabled and the person logged in is on a regular account (not admin or power user of sorts) then the base installation of web clients must che…
A) Aren't you targeting a completely different problem than this law? It's my understanding that this law targets the collection of the age from the user. What the user agent does with that signal is a different problem, and seems to already be solved, except for the definition of "actual knowledge" which they are trying to establish here. B) How would your RTA header intersect with content rating in different jurisd…
For topic (A) I am suggesting to negate this behavior all together. No more sharing personal data. That evil-pattern must be stopped.
For topic (B) companies can set or not set the header based on GeoIP. Not perfect but GeoIP is already used in load balancers, web servers and applications.
Re: California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash
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Is all the code running on my Google Pixel 10 licensed under GPL and/or MIT? I think we have our answer.
I think there's a lot of proprietary stuff, from Google Play Services to Pixel specific features. A very significant stack of "modern" software layers are proprietary, even on Android.
I think that was his point
Re: California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash
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On the topic of 4chan [1] Many sites will just set the header by default. Now you've created a problem. I am not seeing a problem. Kids need not access those sites unless the parent or legal guardian approves it. Sites meant for children would not be adding the header. [1] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47953096
> Sites meant for children would not be adding the header. Is Wikipedia "meant for children?" Should they be fully denied access to it? Should Wikimedia be fined if they make a mistake? If they get fined often enough do you think they'll just turn the header on everywhere in order to avoid risk? Replace Wikipedia with any other mixed content site you prefer.
Child specific sites would not add the header. Anyone else could. I add it to my hobby sites. Some porn sites already add it to their sites [1]. Shodan can't reach my sites. I do not want small children on my blogs.
Add it to any site not specifically meant for children, that is totally fine.
[1] - https://www.shodan.io/search?query=RTA-5042-1996-1400-1577-R... [ Follow Links At Your Own Peril ]
Re: California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verification law after backlash
#59And I bet that Microsoft employee who was sending PRs to all the linux distros (and systemd) will not bother sending apologies to them for wasting their time.