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Omarchy Is Not A Distro

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Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

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Post by Vaslo »

poly2it wrote: post #11

It is understandable to be frustrated at a project without technical merit gaining so much traction when, as in the author's words, "longstanding distros like Debian have struggled with funding and sponsorship for decades". However, I do feel the author fails to come up with any conclusion as to why there is such a disparity between interest in traditional distributions and this rice. I agree that it is almost suspic…

So to be clear - distros used by experienced Linux users are better than distros preferred by non-experienced?

You can easily change most things you don’t like in Omarchy.

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

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Post by eximius »

I recommend installing Omarchy and playing with it. Read through the Omarchy repo to see how the things you liked and disliked were set up.

Then install arch or Cachy or some other Arch based distro and just use the parts you liked.

I am completely disinterested in the author's concerns because Omarchy was useful to me in demonstrating how to compose pieces into a useful whole in a relatively minimalist distribution like Arch. It is much easier to learn with good examples than just only reading DIY reference docs. (And they are good examples even if you dislike the targets of the apps installed - I agree on those points, but they're just not that important)

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

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Post by yuters »

cauch wrote: post #38
yuters wrote: post #29

I've tried to setup Arch with Hyprland like 3 times on my own and with the most popular dot files. It was terrible, frustrating and things broke all the time. Omarchy fixed that and I can't recommend it enough.

Did dhh provide a recipe to install hyprland properly without having to install a full "distribution"? (I don't know, it's a real question) It feels very strange (and wrong) to me: if there is difficulties in installing something, try to help people instead of packaging the solution with other things that are not related. It feels a bit like if uv was mainly providing their "uvOS" to solve the difficulties of dealing…

I was just talking about my experience. I don't think DHH's entire goal was only to help people install Hyprland, it's weird that you're getting this idea.

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

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Post by terracatta »

Usually these types of articles are written about things that challenge status quos. I remember reading a lot about Ruby on Rails in the same vein "ruby isn't a real language", "rails is just a collection of scripts", and "you can't build real web apps with it."

If Omarchy is upsetting the Linux establishment as much as this article implies (unclear if this is just a one-off) then it's probably worth a look!

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

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Post by pure-orange »

Strongly disagree with this post. And I am not a DHH fan.

The biggest problem with Linux as a desktop gaining more popularity is the learning curve. In our bubble, you might not want any software installed and want your first install to barely have a desktop environment, but the average Joe wants their browser, music player and password manager ready to go. If omarchy is nothing but a gateway drug to making leaving windows much easier then I am all for it, even if we bikeshed about whether or not it’s a distributed (I agree it’s not). Once you have it installed you can customise just as much as you would any other “distribution”, it just makes that first step that bit easier. Linux, if it wants to win the war, needs to make it easier for new folks to onboard. The winning desktop distributions (omarchy, cachyos etc) make onboarding easy.

Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

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Post by ath3nd »

Vaslo wrote: post #45

Pretty clear by the other opinions this author has on his “blog” that he dislikes DHH for more than just the Omarchy distribution. Here’s a fact - Omarchy opened up Arch to a whole crowd of people that would have never tried Arch given its notorious difficulty to the uninitiated.

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Re: Omarchy Is Not A Distro

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Post by Barrin92 »

wrren wrote: post #43

We seem to have arrived at a set of assumptions that states that if a large number of people like something that we don’t, or don’t subscribe to some cultural norms that we doggedly adhere to, then there has to be something sinister afoot. The out of box experience with Omarchy is highly functional, aesthetically pleasing and challenges users to lean more on keyboard shortcuts than they’d typically be used to. That’s…

>then there has to be something sinister afoot.

because most of the time there is. We live in a world that is dominated by obnoxious social media influencers and 'taste makers' who push people to the every day. This is the linux version of Mr. Beast lunchables.

Having a conference and corporate sponsorships for what is 500 lines of bash scripting is beyond silly. And like the other half dozen arch based 'desktop reskin disguised as distro' things, when it eventually breaks or stops being supported you'll have a lot of confused people who don't know how to fix it.

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