Meanwhile, in Texas, they arrest people for documenting the water: Woman files lawsuit after arrest for Facebook post concerning Trinidad water supply issues https://www.fox4news.com/news/woman-arrested-facebook-post-c...
People opposed to data centres remind me of people opposed to mask wearing. Both are attempting to dismiss something useful and important, over trivial and manageable issues.
AOC displays drinking water contaminated by data center
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Re: AOC displays drinking water contaminated by data center
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
nothing about data centres in space makes sense if you understand even a modicum of physics https://taranis.ie/datacenters-in-space-are-a-terrible-horri...
The primary argument of the article is that cooling in space is limited, that GPUs emit significant heat, that this is the primary blocker. Well, as it stands, datacenters aren't effectively cooling on the Earth. They're passing their heat to the planet, and are heating up the planet. They're producing significant CO2 emissions, and using up the water and electricity resources of communities. The problems from having…
Re: AOC displays drinking water contaminated by data center
#53I don't read bsky due to javascript requirement. Here are some sources that don't require js: https://ocasio-cortez.house.gov/media/press-releases/ocasio-... https://www.commondreams.org/news/aoc-data-centers-water https://www.rawstory.com/aoc-data-center-drinking-water/
> I don't read bsky due to javascript requirement. They also openly display communist symbols that are banned in much of Europe.
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#54I think anti-ai people should find something better than water to complain about. its too hard to explain to people why a billion gpus might need water ("isn't water bad for computers", "the water just gets recycled" ect), and honestly I don't think I fully get it. Talking about the electricity and CO2 might be easier, or job losses, or x-risk, but water is too abstract.
Re: AOC displays drinking water contaminated by data center
#55I think anti-ai people should find something better than water to complain about. its too hard to explain to people why a billion gpus might need water ("isn't water bad for computers", "the water just gets recycled" ect), and honestly I don't think I fully get it. Talking about the electricity and CO2 might be easier, or job losses, or x-risk, but water is too abstract.
This isn't even about excess water use, it's about water pollution.
If you think you'd get wider consensus while talking about CO2, which is so abstract that we have a climate change denialism faction running the government, you're being naive.
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> Most water use in data centers should be able to be self-sufficient, mostly closed [Citation Needed] My understanding is that data centers CAN use closed-loop systems. But, most don't if they're not forced to, because it costs more than evaporating towers. According to this[1], 88% of water-cooled data-centers use open-loop evaporation towers. "up to 85% of the water data centers use evaporates and does not return…
> up to 85% of the water data centers use evaporates and does not return to the water supply Because the water vapor undergoes antimatter annihilation in the atmosphere so the molecules disappear I suppose?
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
The primary argument of the article is that cooling in space is limited, that GPUs emit significant heat, that this is the primary blocker. Well, as it stands, datacenters aren't effectively cooling on the Earth. They're passing their heat to the planet, and are heating up the planet. They're producing significant CO2 emissions, and using up the water and electricity resources of communities. The problems from having…
The primary argument of the article is that it's physically impossible to dissipate enough heat to power even a modest data centre in space. What you refer to as lack of imagination is my understanding of basic thermodynamics which you sadly lack.
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Most of europe has communist parties running in elections and getting non negligible scores, then alliances and seats in parliaments, municipal councils, ...
7 out of 719 MEP seats. Also you need to look up what is a communist symbol.
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
The primary argument of the article is that cooling in space is limited, that GPUs emit significant heat, that this is the primary blocker. Well, as it stands, datacenters aren't effectively cooling on the Earth. They're passing their heat to the planet, and are heating up the planet. They're producing significant CO2 emissions, and using up the water and electricity resources of communities. The problems from having…
The primary argument of the article is that it's physically impossible to dissipate enough heat to power even a modest data centre in space. What you refer to as lack of imagination is my understanding of basic thermodynamics which you sadly lack.
On Earth, people like you keep sending the bill to the next generation. In space, the bill is due immediately. There is no real difference in the amount due.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
The primary argument of the article is that cooling in space is limited, that GPUs emit significant heat, that this is the primary blocker. Well, as it stands, datacenters aren't effectively cooling on the Earth. They're passing their heat to the planet, and are heating up the planet. They're producing significant CO2 emissions, and using up the water and electricity resources of communities. The problems from having…
The primary argument of the article is that it's physically impossible to dissipate enough heat to power even a modest data centre in space. What you refer to as lack of imagination is my understanding of basic thermodynamics which you sadly lack.