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Re: Google's campaign for a free and open internet

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Post by j_col »

davorak wrote: post #37
ommunist wrote: post #35

Google is a weapon used by the US government to establish the domination and seize control over citizens access to information. Would Google really care about the open Internet, it'd license itself with GNU Public license long time ago. This call is hypocrisy. It is like a bank which collected all the gold is calling to the mob to rob some other bank where some other gold is. Once the other bank is robbed and cease t…

> Would Google really care about the open Internet, it'd license itself with GNU Public license long time ago I do not have a strong idea of why you think Google using the gnu licence would be strong stride in making the internet more open. What is the top technology they should GNU licence and what is the top impact it would have in opening up the internet?

How about their ranking algorithm. Wouldn't that lead to a more transparent Internet?

Re: Google's campaign for a free and open internet

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Post by taejo »

ikawe wrote: post #50

Surely the "evil shadowy governments" are not meeting under the explicit auspices of "curtailing internet freedom." What are the "pro" arguments for the meeting?

AIUI, the pro argument is that the Internet is international and should be controlled by an international body rather than the US government.

Re: Google's campaign for a free and open internet

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Post by jQueryIsAwesome »

j_col wrote: post #51
davorak wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Would Google really care about the open Internet, it'd license itself with GNU Public license long time ago I do not have a strong idea of why you think Google using the gnu licence would be strong stride in making the internet more open. What is the top technology they should GNU licence and what is the top impact it would have in opening up the internet?

How about their ranking algorithm. Wouldn't that lead to a more transparent Internet?

A more transparent internet where all the sites are abusing their knowledge of the algorithm to improve page ranking.

Re: Google's campaign for a free and open internet

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Post by seqastian »

jQueryIsAwesome wrote: post #53
j_col wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about their ranking algorithm. Wouldn't that lead to a more transparent Internet?

A more transparent internet where all the sites are abusing their knowledge of the algorithm to improve page ranking.

which would lead to a better algorythm that is less abuseable

Re: Google's campaign for a free and open internet

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Post by j_col »

jQueryIsAwesome wrote: post #53
j_col wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about their ranking algorithm. Wouldn't that lead to a more transparent Internet?

A more transparent internet where all the sites are abusing their knowledge of the algorithm to improve page ranking.

Right, so Google keep this a secret to protect us. How is this open again?

Re: Google's campaign for a free and open internet

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Post by wmf »

seqastian wrote: post #55
jQueryIsAwesome wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A more transparent internet where all the sites are abusing their knowledge of the algorithm to improve page ranking.

which would lead to a better algorythm that is less abuseable

Assuming that such an algorithm is possible.

Re: Google's campaign for a free and open internet

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Post by wmf »

ikawe wrote: post #50

Surely the "evil shadowy governments" are not meeting under the explicit auspices of "curtailing internet freedom." What are the "pro" arguments for the meeting?

One of the ITU's goals is "development", meaning rich countries/companies should subsidize Internet infrastructure deployment (actually corrupt PTTs) in developing countries. The phone network already works this way, but that gravy train is coming to an end.

Another goal is "diversity/localism", meaning each country should be able to impose its own values on the Internet (e.g. the great firewalls of China, Iran, Saudi Arabia). Since this already exists, it's not clear why regulations need to be changed to allow it.

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