I've always added analytics scripts on websites I worked on. It was second nature for me. Then when I got my own start up, I didn't just add regular analytics but one that tracks mouse movements so you can watch sessions back like a video [0]. I told a friend about my start up and she jumped on it immediately. I opened the tool and watched her interaction. Then I told her "oh so you opened the dev tools" She immediat…
Click (2016)
51–60 of 110 posts
Re: Click (2016)
#52I've always added analytics scripts on websites I worked on. It was second nature for me. Then when I got my own start up, I didn't just add regular analytics but one that tracks mouse movements so you can watch sessions back like a video [0]. I told a friend about my start up and she jumped on it immediately. I opened the tool and watched her interaction. Then I told her "oh so you opened the dev tools" She immediat…
Are there any good browser extensions that can block this and protect user privacy?
Re: Click (2016)
#53I've always added analytics scripts on websites I worked on. It was second nature for me. Then when I got my own start up, I didn't just add regular analytics but one that tracks mouse movements so you can watch sessions back like a video [0]. I told a friend about my start up and she jumped on it immediately. I opened the tool and watched her interaction. Then I told her "oh so you opened the dev tools" She immediat…
Re: Click (2016)
#54I made something very similar 2 weeks ago, re the upcoming OpenAI phone. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48040327
Re: Click (2016)
#55This brings me back to the glory days of StumbleUpon. Highly recommend.
Where you're just sitting there clicking over and over
Re: Click (2016)
#56"What's the point?" she asked.
I said, "You can click it."
"But what's the big deal?" she was baffled.
"You can click it,“ I said.
“That's the big deal."
Re: Click (2016)
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. This is it. People are used to "private conversation in public restaurant". It's not private because no one can hear, but because no one is listening.
Right, the very nature of human society for the last several thousand years has been privacy in public. You walk around outside where everyone can see you, but the societal expectation is that you don't watch others. You have conversations in public because that's where life happens, but they're still private conversations. Every counter-example to this is people being intentionally creepy, inappropriate, or outright…
Re: Click (2016)
#58Thinking of input as a series of discrete events is an interesting cognitive model that many experienced programmers take for granted!
Re: Click (2016)
#59Nice! It shouted "Bot" when I ran this in the console for (let i = 0; i < 1000; i++) { document.querySelector(".button")?.click(); }
Used this and it replied (in the console): "Such a smart subject." ETA: It also took a few seconds to get around to telling me (from the bottom up): Subject has clicked on the button a thousand times. Subject has clicked on the button one hundred times. Subject clicks less than most other subjects. Subject has run script to click on the button ten times within one second. Subject has clicked on the button nine times…
[0]: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Event/isTru...
Re: Click (2016)
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Yeah, we include it in our terms and condition and privacy page Please be honest with yourself. People don't read terms and conditions. There's a good chance you don't read terms and conditions. And even if you do, odds are better than even that you don't fully understand all the legal implications. Terms and conditions pages nowadays are there mostly to provide legal protection under the guise of "the user told us…
I'm also of the opinion that at lot of T&C are basically signing under duress and I consider them invalid. Like if I have to sign a T&C with Google Play and a T&C with your city's sanctioned parking app in order to park on the street, I consider both of those T&C's invalid. As a legal resident of the country with a legally owned car and legal driving license, I should be able to park and pay, I shouldn't have to agre…
Firstly, businesses can do whatever they like. There are no terms to agree to. They simply function in whatever way they "consider to be valid". If a customer disagrees with what is valid or not, hey, that's what courts are for. And given there's no agreement between business and customer, who's to say who is right?
The business can equally terminate you as a customer, with no notice, for no reason, at any time. They can delete all your data. They can spam your contact list. (Ok, they do all that already, but you know what I mean.)
Secondly, customers can do whatever they like. They payed their $9.95. They can do whatever they like. Sure, sharing logins is fine (if they "consider that valid".) They can abuse the system, scrape data out and resell it, anything goes. And of course the only recourse is back to the courts. Which is ultimately no recourse at all.
Even your analogy to parking breaks down. Should you have to prove legal residency to park? Should I be able to park a car on the street (unmoved) for a year? Should I be allowed to park next to a fire-hydrant? Can I park it in the middle of the road? Can my neighbor "reserve" his parking space using an orange cone? Clearly there's a lot more to parking a car than "I should be able to park".
T&C might not be fun, and you may not agree with them (hint: if you don't, then don't use the service) but they at least set out the business behavior that you can expect. Read them, don't read them, that's up to you. But don't complain that the fault is on them when they do something that are in the T&Cs.
And yes, I get they're one sided. customers never bother to submit their own T&C's so they're not fairly represented. Again, that's on you for using that service.