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No more JetBrains products for me

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Re: No more JetBrains products for me

#51

I had my (somewhat) breakup when they started advertising their code assistant at me. My IDE is my home. You push an advertisement at me and I get mad. I killed my subscription (with 1/2 a year left) and loaded the old version and haven't looked back. I will eventually give it up completely since new python versions aren't supported for debugging but oh well.

"but we've invested so much in our AI integration, are you sure you don't want to use it?"

Re: No more JetBrains products for me

#52
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Me too, however this is another case of exchanging IDE for text editor without understanding what is being lost, or never having used the IDE to its full potential in first place, thus not knowing what is being left behind.

> or never having used the IDE to its full potential in first place As more and more people delegate stupid things to their agent, this type of person will become increasingly common. Products like RustRover and CLion will be a much harder sell to audiences that don't even use an LSP in their day-to-day workflow. JetBrains is probably working on a contingency plan as we speak.

That’s correct. Their new IDE, Fleet , pivoted to an AI first editor , but not sure if they have already released something.

Re: No more JetBrains products for me

#53
For me the nail in the coffin will come in 2027Q1: with CodeWithMe going away. Until then, the quality of editing code remotely together with the mostly clean refactoring and navigation options is a deal breaker.

If anyone has something roadmapped to replace CodeWithMe, it's worth bucks.

Re: No more JetBrains products for me

#54
post #6

Well, Zed is a text editor with some plugins, while JetBrains products are full-blown IDEs, with abilities Zed will never offer.

Zed is also insanely capable for the short span its been around, and very responsive. I love JetBrains and used them for over a decade now, but I think I will likely cancel next year since I find myself only using Zed these days.

Is it? For the three languages I tried to use it for it was terrible.

It was like it only had the basic language support plugin I wrote for myself at uni: basic syntax and current file/directory only source files loaded into context.

So any referenced projects, tooling, even packages in one language, and you have false positive errors everywhere.

Re: No more JetBrains products for me

#55

I swear : Good JVM settings can make Jetbrains IDEs fly with performance. Startup is way faster too. I like ZGC. And having the IDE grab more RAM immediately on startup than the default. Something like Xms=4g or however it's done. I cannot understand why Jetbrains keep the VM settings as constrained as they do. It's a big difference.

JVM settings are always wrong no matter what, it's impressive

Java, how to make TLS not interoperate with anything, ever.

Re: No more JetBrains products for me

#56
I am not particularly bothered by the speed but the AI suggestion clutter is quickly becoming an issue for me :( I type fragments of a line and it will suggest the next 5-6 lines. They may not be outright wrong, but they might not represent the way I like to do things. Pressing Esc. and refocusing on what I was going to type in anyway is a disruptive experience.

Re: No more JetBrains products for me

#58
post #42
post #6

Well, Zed is a text editor with some plugins, while JetBrains products are full-blown IDEs, with abilities Zed will never offer.

I don't use Zed, but do use Neovim but people make similar arguments. If I have access to a LSP and DAP, also do most of my refactoring through c tags and vim grep (or grug-far if I want to be fancy). What IDE specific features am I missing out on that can't be replicated? Being earnest here because I always screenshare with co-workers doing a variety of things and there is nothing I ever see that is impressive or ma…

We're not missing anything, or at least not anything I actually miss. I had a previous supervisor who chided me for "not using an IDE" because I was using Emacs -- Emacs! -- and insisted I should use something more featureful.

First, that doesn't exist, and the notion's laughable.

Second, I have every feature I actually want to use in Emacs (and Zed and even *vim), and have no reason to believe that any random bullet point someone might come up with 1) doesn't exist in those editors, or 2) that I'd use it anyway.

Re: No more JetBrains products for me

#59
> Granted, I tend to run older hardware, but it seems that most other programs on my machine run fast and happy

I'd really like some context here. Because for some people this is like "My M4 is out of date now the M4 ultra is out" and for others it's "I think computers really took a step back when when we started to talk about Gigahertz and Gigabytes, a 386 is all I need".

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