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Elon Musk has lost his lawsuit against Sam Altman and OpenAI

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Re: Elon Musk has lost his lawsuit against Sam Altman and OpenAI

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Ending a trial over a bureaucratic technicality is not good justice.

Statute of limitations is not a "bureaucratic technicality", it is the law.

Can some lawyer explain the rationale of statute of limitations? Like why does a robber get to get away with the crime if they are able to evade the police for x number of years. Is it just because the trials suck after a while cuz no one remembers anything?

Re: Elon Musk has lost his lawsuit against Sam Altman and OpenAI

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post #34
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Muskys problem is does things in the moment as a way to increase popularity without thinking that end up bitting him. e.g the twitter thing - forced to buy when he didn't want.

To be fair, twitter ended up useful for him when he used it to buy his way into the US government and close down all the departments that were investigating his companies for breaking all sorts of laws.

As a business transaction: Twitters acquisition is among the worst deals in human history.

As means to buy an election an Presidency: highly efficient use of capital with an undeniable short and long-term ROI.

Re: Elon Musk has lost his lawsuit against Sam Altman and OpenAI

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post #32

Ending a trial over a bureaucratic technicality is not good justice.

Statute of limitations is not a "bureaucratic technicality", it is the law.

I am absolutely certain that if Sam was suing xAI and the case got dismissed on a technicality people would be lined up with screeds about the injustice of the situation.

Re: Elon Musk has lost his lawsuit against Sam Altman and OpenAI

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post #34
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Muskys problem is does things in the moment as a way to increase popularity without thinking that end up bitting him. e.g the twitter thing - forced to buy when he didn't want.

To be fair, twitter ended up useful for him when he used it to buy his way into the US government and close down all the departments that were investigating his companies for breaking all sorts of laws.

On the other hand, buying twitter was the turning point for his public image. Before that, he was Tony Stark. Now he's Lex Luthor.

Re: Elon Musk has lost his lawsuit against Sam Altman and OpenAI

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The strongest evidence against Musk was Musk. His own 2017 emails supporting for-profit chats made the "betrayal" narrative very hard to sell.

Muskys problem is does things in the moment as a way to increase popularity without thinking that end up bitting him. e.g the twitter thing - forced to buy when he didn't want.

I wonder if a more "hardcore" team, by his words, would have handled this legal case better?

Re: Elon Musk has lost his lawsuit against Sam Altman and OpenAI

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post #23

The strongest evidence against Musk was Musk. His own 2017 emails supporting for-profit chats made the "betrayal" narrative very hard to sell.

Muskys problem is does things in the moment as a way to increase popularity without thinking that end up bitting him. e.g the twitter thing - forced to buy when he didn't want.

And the Trump thing, which cratered his car business

Re: Elon Musk has lost his lawsuit against Sam Altman and OpenAI

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The strongest evidence against Musk was Musk. His own 2017 emails supporting for-profit chats made the "betrayal" narrative very hard to sell.

There was no decision made on this basis. It was dismissed entirely due to the elapsed statute of limitations.

Re: Elon Musk has lost his lawsuit against Sam Altman and OpenAI

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Muskys problem is does things in the moment as a way to increase popularity without thinking that end up bitting him. e.g the twitter thing - forced to buy when he didn't want.

And the Trump thing, which cratered his car business

Yeah but he was able to personally make the call to kill millions of people around the world, he's just going back to his roots.

Re: Elon Musk has lost his lawsuit against Sam Altman and OpenAI

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I think a lot about how there's a very plausible alternate history where Elon Musk controls most of the frontier of AI.

You speak as if Elon Musk didn't buy tons of AI chips for full self driving (Dojo) and COMPLETELY flub it.

It's the same as always. Musk himself is an awful business man. He relies upon buying the success of others and taking over. Outside of that, he's kind of awful. Initiatives started by Musk himself almost inevitably fail.

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