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Hershey Bets on Agentic AI to Rethink $2B in Marketing Spend

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Re: Hershey Bets on Agentic AI to Rethink $2B in Marketing Spend

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> “We were getting the full read of 2024 [data] midway through 2025, while we were planning for 2026,” said Vinny Rinaldi, vp of media and marketing technology at Hershey. “That alone is just not conducive to where marketers need to be.” Irrespective of AI, it's astounding that companies have been throwing $2bn/yr at marketing, and their analytics data on that spend is delayed 6-18 months. That's nearly 15% of their…

There is the old quote:

"Half of my advertising useless. The only problem is that I don't know which half."

That was certainly true in the newspaper and radio days when attribution wsa difficult (although you could argue coupon codes etc helped.) Today, however, every online ad id attributable to a sale.

That makes me question:

1. Why do they keep spending money on things that don't work?

2. Why do they spend money on things they can't track?

I don't know the answer to #1 but folks I know who work in radio sales say that #2 happens b/c certain demographics are essentially not reachable by desktop web ads or even mobile. That's why they target radio.

Re: Hershey Bets on Agentic AI to Rethink $2B in Marketing Spend

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I'm amazed that Hershey is spending $2B on marketing. I honestly don't think I've seen any advertising for the brand itself at any point in the past decade, and I don't have any positive association with it: it's the "bad" chocolate you buy for cooking? Looking at their subsidiary brands, I don't think I've seen any serious advertising for them either. KitKat is doing viral marketing on social media, but surely, that…

> it's the "bad" chocolate you buy for cooking?

This is crazy to me because I would never use Hershey's for cooking.

Hershey's is the childhood candy. Enjoyable for nostalgia only, while also being fairly cheap compared to good chocolate.

Re: Hershey Bets on Agentic AI to Rethink $2B in Marketing Spend

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Parmesan cheese is savory, not sweet. For people who did not grow up with hershey's, the butyric acid is what makes it taste off. This is not a question of safety - it is a question of results. They stayed with old technologies and have optimized for cost, not flavor. (And yes, that processing was necessary in the days before a reliable milk source.)

You’re confusing two different things. The “sour taste” objection to Hershey’s chocolate has nothing to do with “cost optimization.” You’re thinking about the 2006 recipe changes, which never applied to Hershey’s solid chocolate bars (and flagship products like peanut butter cups). That sour taste is in Hershey’s original recipe. If you got rid of it, it wouldn’t be Hershey’s chocolate anymore. If you grew up with Eu…

> But characterizing it as tasting like “vomit” … is spin.

It really isn’t spin- It’s a common perception for people who aren’t accustomed to it. Search for “Hersheys chocolate tastes like vomit” and as a control, search for some other brand of chocolate tastes like vomit (I did lindt but you could use anything I’m sure). All the hits I got on the lindt search were references to hersheys tasting like vomit. On the hersheys search I got (for example)

https://cookingsmoke.com/why-does-hersheys-chocolate-smell-l...

https://enersection.io/why-does-hersheys-taste-like-vomit

https://decorwithstyle.com/does-hersheys-chocolate-have-vomi... (“Debunking the Myths: Does Hershey’s Chocolate Contain Vomit?”)

https://www.chefsresource.com/why-does-hershey-taste-like-vo...

A reddit thread “Does Hershey's taste like vomit, or are all Europeans snobs?” (Which, why not both?)

…etc etc lots of similar hits all for the same sort of thing.

Now for calibration I didn’t grow up with fancy European chocolate. I grew up in Africa with bloody horrible chocolate but even so I was genuinely shocked and disgusted the first time I tasted Hersheys. I had expected something, well… something that didn’t taste like vomit.

Versus the first time I had, say Lindt or Godiva or Leonidas or Guylian chocolate I was surprised and delighted by how much better it tasted than the chocolate that I had grown up with.

I get this is 100% a question of cultural norms and acquired taste, but to say it’s spin is definitely not true.

Re: Hershey Bets on Agentic AI to Rethink $2B in Marketing Spend

#54

I'm amazed that Hershey is spending $2B on marketing. I honestly don't think I've seen any advertising for the brand itself at any point in the past decade, and I don't have any positive association with it: it's the "bad" chocolate you buy for cooking? Looking at their subsidiary brands, I don't think I've seen any serious advertising for them either. KitKat is doing viral marketing on social media, but surely, that…

Advertising may be things we don’t typically think of as advertising such as grocery store end caps and such.

Re: Hershey Bets on Agentic AI to Rethink $2B in Marketing Spend

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Advertising is a subset of marketing so $2 billion is not all advertising. They probably do a lot of downstream supply chain promotions.

I understand that there's more to it than TV ads, but Coca-Cola reportedly spends only about 2x as much, and... you'd agree that they get a lot more bang for the buck in terms of selling the brand?

That's not correct. According to Coca Cola Inc's latest 10-K, the advertising expense for 2025 fiscal year was $5.4 billion. In contrast, Hershey's ad expense was $612 million [1]. That's about 11% of Coke's ad expense.

The relevant text from Hershey's latest 10-K (amounts in thousand):

Selling, marketing and administrative expense (“SM&A”) represents costs incurred in generating revenues and in managing our business. Such costs include advertising and other marketing expenses, selling expenses, research and development costs, administrative and other indirect overhead costs, amortization of capitalized software and intangible assets and depreciation of administrative facilities. Research and development costs, charged to expense as incurred, totaled $61,655 in 2025, $55,798 in 2024 and $50,030 in 2023. Advertising expense is also charged to expense as incurred and totaled $611,951 in 2025, $600,094 in 2024 and $604,853 in 2023. There was no prepaid advertising expense as of December 31, 2025. Prepaid advertising expense was $1,351 as of December 31, 2024.

1. https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/47111/00016282802600...

Re: Hershey Bets on Agentic AI to Rethink $2B in Marketing Spend

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> “We were getting the full read of 2024 [data] midway through 2025, while we were planning for 2026,” said Vinny Rinaldi, vp of media and marketing technology at Hershey. “That alone is just not conducive to where marketers need to be.” Irrespective of AI, it's astounding that companies have been throwing $2bn/yr at marketing, and their analytics data on that spend is delayed 6-18 months. That's nearly 15% of their…

Could be worse. Steve Levitt has a story about working out ad spend causality and actively ignoring the truth[1]: > LEVITT: And they said to me "[...] One time we hired this summer intern and his job was to do the newspaper inserts for Pittsburgh, and the guy was so incompetent that he just didn’t do it. And when the C.E.O. found that out, he said, ‘If you ever do that again, you’re all fired.’ > LEVITT: So, I said t…

I remember meeting a founder who had a moderately successful adtech business who was venting about the difficulty getting very large brands with huge spend on board. This is probably almost 2 decades ago now before what many of us take for granted in terms of analytics, so direct attribution between spend and return wasn't particularly common.

He was having great success with small and mid-tier companies, then he'd run a pilot with a massive global brand and the results would be even more stark than what he'd see with his existing users. But basically could not close a deal.

Because of exactly what you've shared here: "they measured on how much the spend, not on how much they bring in. Because they've never been able to do that. Their job is so much easier if nobody can ever see that latter figure they just go year to year asking for more budget and the more they spend the more everyone thinks they're doing a great job". I was naive enough at the time to think he was wrong and that couldn't possibly be true. But I've seen enough in the years since to realise he was right.

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