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OpenAI is connecting ChatGPT to bank accounts via Plaid

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Re: OpenAI is connecting ChatGPT to bank accounts via Plaid

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> OpenAI did this with your health data in January. Now it wants your financial data too. This is far more valuable, they can see what political affiliation you have based on your campaign donations, predict things like cheating on your wife & the impending divorce, what vices you have and they can also build shadow profiles of all the people you give and receive money from even if they don't use the product.

>they can see what political affiliation you have based on your campaign donations You can get a pretty good estimate just by looking at other demographic factors like age, education level, income, and zip code. Moreover, how many people actually donate to campaigns? >predict things like cheating on your wife & the impending divorce, what vices you have and they can also build shadow profiles of all of the people you…

OpenAI is now run by former Meta executives.

Re: OpenAI is connecting ChatGPT to bank accounts via Plaid

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I’ve been asked to sign up to plaid by clients three times. Each time I’ve said no. I’m not giving a 3rd party access to my bank account. I don’t understand how people enable this total loss of friction for direct account egress. There needs to be friction.

Have you ever entered your routing+account number into HR software for direct deposit? Doesn't that qualify as handing a third party essentially the same access as Plaid gets? I think bank accounts are generally more accessible in the modern era, it's just a risk that you take. Of course, you're not obligated to use Plaid but I do find the concerns around this quite strange since you're likely exposing account inform…

Plaid wants you to enter your bank username-password into their form. If it was just routing+account it would be truly no different than other bank connection methods.

Re: OpenAI is connecting ChatGPT to bank accounts via Plaid

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I’ve been asked to sign up to plaid by clients three times. Each time I’ve said no. I’m not giving a 3rd party access to my bank account. I don’t understand how people enable this total loss of friction for direct account egress. There needs to be friction.

Have you ever entered your routing+account number into HR software for direct deposit? Doesn't that qualify as handing a third party essentially the same access as Plaid gets? I think bank accounts are generally more accessible in the modern era, it's just a risk that you take. Of course, you're not obligated to use Plaid but I do find the concerns around this quite strange since you're likely exposing account inform…

With plaid they get access to all of your account numbers.

HR just sees a single savings account that I strictly use for direct deposit. They don’t see my actual savings account or my other purpose-specific checking accounts.

Re: OpenAI is connecting ChatGPT to bank accounts via Plaid

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I’ve been asked to sign up to plaid by clients three times. Each time I’ve said no. I’m not giving a 3rd party access to my bank account. I don’t understand how people enable this total loss of friction for direct account egress. There needs to be friction.

Hijacking this comment to complain about fintech apps / saas providers requiring Plaid - please stop. For example, Coinbase requires logging in with Plaid to... setup auto-pay for their credit card statements. No way to just provide account/routing numbers the good ole way. There's lots of issues with Plaid but one big one is that banks (e.g big ones like BofA) can lock your account due to suspicious login with Plaid…

They're a YC company so every other YC company is going to use them, that's how YC companies operate.

Re: OpenAI is connecting ChatGPT to bank accounts via Plaid

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I’ve been asked to sign up to plaid by clients three times. Each time I’ve said no. I’m not giving a 3rd party access to my bank account. I don’t understand how people enable this total loss of friction for direct account egress. There needs to be friction.

Refinancing a loan I passed on the lowest possible rate I could get, for a slightly higher one, specifically because they used Plaid. I'm not the most privacy-focused individual, not nearly as paranoid as I could be, but Plaid's model is an OBVIOUS step too far.

Depending on the rate difference, I'd be tempted to setup a 'burner' checking account at a separate financial institution and just auto-transfer the loan amount from my primary bank to the burner every month.

Re: OpenAI is connecting ChatGPT to bank accounts via Plaid

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I’ve been asked to sign up to plaid by clients three times. Each time I’ve said no. I’m not giving a 3rd party access to my bank account. I don’t understand how people enable this total loss of friction for direct account egress. There needs to be friction.

Have you ever entered your routing+account number into HR software for direct deposit? Doesn't that qualify as handing a third party essentially the same access as Plaid gets? I think bank accounts are generally more accessible in the modern era, it's just a risk that you take. Of course, you're not obligated to use Plaid but I do find the concerns around this quite strange since you're likely exposing account inform…

routing+account numbers are not that sensitive. that's been API for how we transact money since pre-historic times. plaid gets access to your online account with access personal data, security details, documents, transactions, statements, write-access etc.

Re: OpenAI is connecting ChatGPT to bank accounts via Plaid

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hijacking this comment to complain about fintech apps / saas providers requiring Plaid - please stop. For example, Coinbase requires logging in with Plaid to... setup auto-pay for their credit card statements. No way to just provide account/routing numbers the good ole way. There's lots of issues with Plaid but one big one is that banks (e.g big ones like BofA) can lock your account due to suspicious login with Plaid…

They're a YC company so every other YC company is going to use them, that's how YC companies operate.

Plaid has an option to let the client/provider accept plain account + routing numbers, a lot of apps for whatever purpose don't use it.
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