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maybe because the company promised "always free"?
if the company can't keep the promises, then maybe they shouldn't make them in the first place?
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Re: Bitwarden scrubs 'Always free' and 'Inclusion' values from its site
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
Except that we do have Vaultwarden, so those who haven't already switched still have an option.
Vaultwarden relies on the goodwill of Bitwarden to allow it to use its clients for compatibility. I would wager a new owner looking for money would block that pretty soon after buying the company.
The clients are open source. If Bitwarden removes the ability to select the server, people will just fork the clients.
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Would you really be okay with HN charging monthly to use the site? HN probably stores more data anyways, passwords are pretty small in comparison to comments, and I produce more of them aswell.
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#54I've paid for Bitwarden for years, but I can come to no other conclusion from all this (CEO all about private equity, severe price hike, scrubbing of core values, hiding the free tier) that it will be sold soon. Time to jump ship!
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#55Just use vaultwarden https://github.com/dani-garcia/vaultwarden
Do you have to self host it? I'm moderately decent at self hosting. I'm fairly confident in my backups and security. But also, I am not a system backup nor security expert, and I don't want to become either. The one last thing that I really want to leave to the experts is my secrets management.
You don't need to be a system backup expert to take backups, and with that attitude you will never become a system backup novice either. There is no gaurentee paid services will keep your data available either. One company lost my data and I was very glad to have backups.
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How do you sync between devices?
Last time I looked into this, you really couldn't in a reasonably simple way. It was possible between two users, but more than two just caused issues with syncing.
Syncing between your own devices is still an easier problem to solve than syncing between different users. The database is just a file.
I use a self hosted Nextcloud, but you don't have to.
KeePassXC allows you to automate opening a database from the URL column. My family and I share a second database and open it from there, but it's super kludgy on any other device.
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#57Ah, good old rugpull. Just use KeePass.
Unfortunately that has no team features, and last time I checked they were quite pushy about not adding any - which is totally fair, they know what product they want to make and are sticking to it! But BitWarden has good team features.
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I think the deal is pretty clear with stuff like this: Free accounts for individual users, earning money with businesses.
It's not like Bitwarden is giving away their product without getting anything in return: The free users (tech-savy early adopters) were the ones that pitched Bitwarden to their bosses when they were looking for a password solution for their company. It's really no different than Adobe or other companies giving away student licences. Companies are not stupid.
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You're right, though the friends and family that I would feel the need to recommend a password manager to aren't the type that would self-host their own servers.
So what would you recommend to your friends and family that need a password manager? Genuinely curious. I pay for a service for my family because I need reliable and easy for my wife and daughter to use it.
- KeePass files synced between laptop and phone on OneDrive, DropBox, etc
- KeePassXC on Windows and Mac
- Keepass2Android mobile client
- Browser integration on mobile.
- On laptop, I prefer no browser integration; Copy username and password with Ctrl+B and Ctrl+CRe: Bitwarden scrubs 'Always free' and 'Inclusion' values from its site
#60I feel glad that I never went paid (though I do pay for software and services). Bitwarden always seemed laggy: both the development pace and the iOS app (though the latter improved a bit only in the last two years). The moment Bitwarden took VC funding ($100 million?), it was clear that it would “pivot” to enterprise, raise prices for consumers and do other things that describe enshittification. It’s probably in the same league as 1Password (another scummy company with similar practices and deteriorating applications).
On password managers, anyone using ProtonPass want to chime in on how it is? I’ve read online that Proton (as a company) has a tendency to start working on new things all the time and let the ones they created remain half baked and languishing (to some extent).
I’m not into KeePass and other local password managers since I need a shared solution for multiple people using the same vault.