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Idk, I think they are regretting the unit economics of the Neo, and it is likely cannibalizing the Air sales.
intentionally cannibalizing their own sales is iirc the official apple policy: iphone destroyed ipod and was one of the best business mives of all time
MacBook Neo Deep Dive: Benchmarks, Wafer Economics, and the 8GB Gamble
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Re: MacBook Neo Deep Dive: Benchmarks, Wafer Economics, and the 8GB Gamble
#52> The I/O is also a genuine limitation: one USB 2.0 port is functionally useless for data transfer, no Thunderbolt means no fast external storage, and charging occupies your only USB 3 port. You're supposed to use the USB-2 port for charging and save the USB-3 port for external accessories, not the other way around It only supports 10Gb/s compared to 40 that USB-4 is theoretically capable of, but that's more than eno…
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Re: MacBook Neo Deep Dive: Benchmarks, Wafer Economics, and the 8GB Gamble
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After years of incremental upgrades to the Airs, a new entry level M5 Air gives you double the RAM, double the storage, and double the CPU and GPU performance of an M1 Air. Hopefully used Airs will come up for sale more frequently, as they remain a step up from the Neo.
At double the price.
Used M1 Airs are selling for roughly half the price of a new Neo.
Re: MacBook Neo Deep Dive: Benchmarks, Wafer Economics, and the 8GB Gamble
#54I bought an 8gb M1 Air in 2020 (for what now feels like an absurdly small sum of money) as an experiment in how-cheap-is-too-cheap / chuckable travel laptop. I ended up using it as my main laptop for 2 years without regret, then handed it to my son for school. It remains in perfect condition and as delightful to use as the day I bought it (Apple software snafus notwithstanding). I fully expect to get at least 10 year…
Re: MacBook Neo Deep Dive: Benchmarks, Wafer Economics, and the 8GB Gamble
#55The Neo is pretty great, and the compromises are totally reasonable at the price point. But if they do a second generation with A19 Pro (and thus 12GB RAM) and a slightly better cooling system then it would really be fantastic.
Re: MacBook Neo Deep Dive: Benchmarks, Wafer Economics, and the 8GB Gamble
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
> if they do a second generation with A19 Pro I'm pretty sure it's a "when", not "if".
Idk, I think they are regretting the unit economics of the Neo, and it is likely cannibalizing the Air sales.
Re: MacBook Neo Deep Dive: Benchmarks, Wafer Economics, and the 8GB Gamble
#57> The I/O is also a genuine limitation: one USB 2.0 port is functionally useless for data transfer, no Thunderbolt means no fast external storage, and charging occupies your only USB 3 port. You're supposed to use the USB-2 port for charging and save the USB-3 port for external accessories, not the other way around It only supports 10Gb/s compared to 40 that USB-4 is theoretically capable of, but that's more than eno…
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Labels would be nice, I guess, but their absence is hardly a dealbreaker.
Re: MacBook Neo Deep Dive: Benchmarks, Wafer Economics, and the 8GB Gamble
#58> The I/O is also a genuine limitation: one USB 2.0 port is functionally useless for data transfer, no Thunderbolt means no fast external storage, and charging occupies your only USB 3 port. You're supposed to use the USB-2 port for charging and save the USB-3 port for external accessories, not the other way around It only supports 10Gb/s compared to 40 that USB-4 is theoretically capable of, but that's more than eno…
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But yes, labeling should have been better. One of the USPs of MacBooks is that all USB ports are the same. Unlike other computers where you have to look where you are plugging it in. The Neo breaks that tradition.
Re: MacBook Neo Deep Dive: Benchmarks, Wafer Economics, and the 8GB Gamble
#59I bought an 8gb M1 Air in 2020 (for what now feels like an absurdly small sum of money) as an experiment in how-cheap-is-too-cheap / chuckable travel laptop. I ended up using it as my main laptop for 2 years without regret, then handed it to my son for school. It remains in perfect condition and as delightful to use as the day I bought it (Apple software snafus notwithstanding). I fully expect to get at least 10 year…
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Do you think those same users know the difference between usb3, usb4, and thunderbolt (or even that all three exist)? More over, do you think they know how to tell cables apart for the three?