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Setting up a free *.city.state.us locality domain (2025)

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Re: Setting up a free *.city.state.us locality domain (2025)

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post #23

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This is the correct answer. From RFC 1386, Section 3.3.1: "Public schools are usually organized by districts which can be larger or smaller than a city or county." https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc1386#page-12

What a wierd phrasing. It reads to me like it excludes the possibility of it being the same.

"can be" ≠ "must be"

Re: Setting up a free *.city.state.us locality domain (2025)

#52
post #36

Seeing the list of contacts for delegated subdomains reminds me of a time when there were a lot more local ISP's. Inreach.com for Stockton, lodinet (possibly an ISP?) for Lodi.. But the one that really shocked me was https://www.snowcrest.com/mysc/ - which seems to still be up and running?? I wonder if the login page for webmail (ISP-provided email was a thing! And even hosting space!) still works. https://web.archiv…

Here in the Boston area, the first commercial ISP https://www.theworld.com/ appears to still be up and running, and is similarly frozen in time.

What a blast from the past. I completely forgot that I was a The World customer way back when.

Re: Setting up a free *.city.state.us locality domain (2025)

#53
post #46

I have three locality domains, all with different registrars in Oregon. Two are with unique delegated locality domain registrars (think old school consultancies or ISPs that still exist) and one directly via localitymanagement.us (GoDaddy/USTLD). One of the registrars is from an out of state operator that has been dead for three years. I tracked his widow down and had a number of cordial conversations over about 18 m…

The notarized letter may be easier to get than you think - if you live in the city/county. The key is being professional, polite, and present.

Re: Setting up a free *.city.state.us locality domain (2025)

#54
post #8

Seeing the *.k12.oh.us in the delegated subdomains brought me back to highschool. When I was little I always wondered why the city name was before k12. Didn't know it was structured like that everywhere.

I managed a couple ".k12.oh.us" domains back in the day. The employees hated the domain in their email addresses, but I found it very logical. I saw all kinds screwed-up addresses in bounce messages forwarded to my company address when "can't email people in the District" tickets got sent my way (a lot of "districtname.oh.k12.us", etc). I guess it wasn't so simple for "normies". One of the schools ended up using a ".…

I'm still mildly annoyed every time usps.gov redirects me to usps.com

Re: Setting up a free *.city.state.us locality domain (2025)

#55
post #49
post #36

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Here in the Boston area, the first commercial ISP https://www.theworld.com/ appears to still be up and running, and is similarly frozen in time.

What a strange time machine. The website offered to sell unlimited dialup for me, in Ohio, using a local phone number. I Googled that number, and it appears that it may belong to another (related? different?) time machine: https://www.panix.com/dialup/

I worked at a tiny ISP in 2000. We had nationwide (maybe worldwide?) dialups through MegaPoP [1]; they would passthrough auth for user@dgx.net to our radius server, and charge us (IIRC) $5 for each user that successfully authenticated every month. I think we charged $10/month for local dialup only (where they called into our T1 modem bank) and $20/month for nationwide dialup... at least until our modem bank T1 failed and we couldn't get the telco to fix it so we just pushed everyone to the megapop numbers.

[1] I have no idea what they're called now. There's a huge chain of acquisitions. They may have stopped serving this market, but someone still is.

Re: Setting up a free *.city.state.us locality domain (2025)

#56
post #38

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Our school and town dropped all the .mi.us domains and they have their own domains now, why would they do that? I know it used to be k12 too.

They nearly all did that because the average person never figured out how the DNS hierarchy worked, and many of them never even got comfortable with the idea of having more than one dot in a domain (with the exception of a “www.” prefix). So it was easier for each district to just make up a random .com or .org.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CsN6rbonMo is basically perfectly accurate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gNFFZpIDU8 (we need .egg and .muffin)

Re: Setting up a free *.city.state.us locality domain (2025)

#57
post #8

Seeing the *.k12.oh.us in the delegated subdomains brought me back to highschool. When I was little I always wondered why the city name was before k12. Didn't know it was structured like that everywhere.

I managed a couple ".k12.oh.us" domains back in the day. The employees hated the domain in their email addresses, but I found it very logical. I saw all kinds screwed-up addresses in bounce messages forwarded to my company address when "can't email people in the District" tickets got sent my way (a lot of "districtname.oh.k12.us", etc). I guess it wasn't so simple for "normies". One of the schools ended up using a ".…

Once you stop thinking of domain as an addressing tool and start thinking of them as branding, the complaints will make sense. "Dot k12 dot oh dot us" is a terrible brand name.

Re: Setting up a free *.city.state.us locality domain (2025)

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What a wierd phrasing. It reads to me like it excludes the possibility of it being the same.

"can be" ≠ "must be"

"can be" is used to list all possible values, which is where the confusion arises. It sounds like: ∀x, x>C v x"Might be", I think would be better.

Re: Setting up a free *.city.state.us locality domain (2025)

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post #27
post #21

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Why would city board members care what your domain name is?

Oh they probably don't. But it might annoy them slightly if the foia docs were hosted there.

My city already has to publicly list and host foia requests and host documents provided, if they were provided electronically. Most of the requests are for permit drawings, which are provided on paper to the local reprographics company and are not digitized, but most of the potentially annoying requests result in a pdf that's publicly available from a portal linked by the city. Not sure why it would be annoying, even in the slightest, to have it also available somewhere else.

Re: Setting up a free *.city.state.us locality domain (2025)

#60
post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I managed a couple ".k12.oh.us" domains back in the day. The employees hated the domain in their email addresses, but I found it very logical. I saw all kinds screwed-up addresses in bounce messages forwarded to my company address when "can't email people in the District" tickets got sent my way (a lot of "districtname.oh.k12.us", etc). I guess it wasn't so simple for "normies". One of the schools ended up using a ".…

Once you stop thinking of domain as an addressing tool and start thinking of them as branding, the complaints will make sense. "Dot k12 dot oh dot us" is a terrible brand name.

I have a hard time with public dollars going to "branding" but I do recognize it's a concern for some people and I'm a vastly minority opinion.
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