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A HN post with negative points – how?

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Re: A HN post with negative points – how?

#51

Take this post for instance, the link to the upvote is https://news.ycombinator.com/vote?id=48106316&how=up&auth=26... If you change `how=up` to `how=down` it downvotes the post. I tried it once, didn't change the vote count, but I issued the inverse operation with `how=un` and the vote count went up, so I'm guessing someone upvoted at the same time I downvoted. That or it doesn't really work like it says it does, bu…

This.

Re: A HN post with negative points – how?

#52

HN has the oddest karma system. I've seen submissions get 3 upvotes in the first minute and never another upvote.

> I've seen submissions get 3 upvotes in the first minute and never another upvote. Is that people looking at the new page and seeing/upvoting your post and then it falls off the front.

That is many people's posts when I am reviewing new submissions.

Re: A HN post with negative points – how?

#53

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the interesting part here is that it is a submission with negative karma, not a comment. there is no downvote button on submissions, so it doesnt make sense for it to get negative karma.

I always assumed there WAS downvoting for a submission once you hit a certain threshold of user karma. Like flagging and other community moderating functions.

(Open question to anyone reading this)

I've been meaning to ask for quite a while now: What exactly is "flag" supposed to indicate?

I assume it's something more specific than "dislike". I take it to mean something along the lines of, "I think this is (sneaky) spam", or "This does not fit on a technology news site, even tangentially.". Or, perhaps something broader like, "I can't describe what the problem is, but this submission/comment should be reviewed by a moderator."

It's just never been particularly clear what the intention of it is.

Re: A HN post with negative points – how?

#54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the interesting part here is that it is a submission with negative karma, not a comment. there is no downvote button on submissions, so it doesnt make sense for it to get negative karma.

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Are you making a joke, like I did about 32767, when I hit 31337? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46760058

Re: A HN post with negative points – how?

#55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always assumed there WAS downvoting for a submission once you hit a certain threshold of user karma. Like flagging and other community moderating functions.

(Open question to anyone reading this) I've been meaning to ask for quite a while now: What exactly is "flag" supposed to indicate? I assume it's something more specific than "dislike". I take it to mean something along the lines of, "I think this is (sneaky) spam", or "This does not fit on a technology news site, even tangentially.". Or, perhaps something broader like, "I can't describe what the problem is, but this…

> The purpose of flagging is to indicate that a story does not belong on HN. Frivolous flagging—e.g. flagging a story that's clearly on-topic by the site guidelines just because one personally dislikes it—eventually gets an account's flagging privileges taken away. But there's a new 'hide' link for people to click if they'd just like not to see a story.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12173809

Re: A HN post with negative points – how?

#56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always assumed there WAS downvoting for a submission once you hit a certain threshold of user karma. Like flagging and other community moderating functions.

[flagged]

Nope I have 10k

Re: A HN post with negative points – how?

#57
post #24

HN has the oddest karma system. I've seen submissions get 3 upvotes in the first minute and never another upvote.

That's probably the submitter's friends voting.

It has happened to me and I'm not coordinating with anyone. I have also experienced very rapidly upvoted submissions flagged, then I notified HN admins, had the post unflagged, but after that time it was deep past page 12 and got like 5 more votes over 24 hours.

I haven't seen the negative votes on submissions that people are reporting within this submission, but anyone who thinks HN isn't a target for myriad bad actors employing every means available to them to manipulate votes in whatever direction is a fool.

Re: A HN post with negative points – how?

#58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the interesting part here is that it is a submission with negative karma, not a comment. there is no downvote button on submissions, so it doesnt make sense for it to get negative karma.

[flagged]

It's the maximum value of a signed 16 bit integer. But there's a GitHub page that explains hn lore.

Re: A HN post with negative points – how?

#59
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(Open question to anyone reading this) I've been meaning to ask for quite a while now: What exactly is "flag" supposed to indicate? I assume it's something more specific than "dislike". I take it to mean something along the lines of, "I think this is (sneaky) spam", or "This does not fit on a technology news site, even tangentially.". Or, perhaps something broader like, "I can't describe what the problem is, but this…

> The purpose of flagging is to indicate that a story does not belong on HN. Frivolous flagging—e.g. flagging a story that's clearly on-topic by the site guidelines just because one personally dislikes it—eventually gets an account's flagging privileges taken away. But there's a new 'hide' link for people to click if they'd just like not to see a story. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12173809

Ah, interesting. Thanks!

Re: A HN post with negative points – how?

#60

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It's the maximum value of a signed 16 bit integer. But there's a GitHub page that explains hn lore.

What HN-lore page are you referring to? This[0] one explicitly states:

> Although submissions cannot be downvoted, [...]

[0]: https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented#flaggi...

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