Not sure i understand the point.... any p2p webrtc call in encrypted e2e.
Proton Meet
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#52I wish Proton would focus on all of the missing features within their existing product suite before creating even more offerings to maintain
Wanna tell us what are the missing features on their existing products?
For a start, you can't edit docs on mobile. But if you just use it for a while you notice there's a fairly large amount of bugs which need working on. Try entering a couple of dates and using their autofill to extend the sequence... it's pretty comical.
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#53- stupid question: someone is asking me to prove that google, microsoft and zoom are tracking - how do I prove that they are actually not privacy friendly?
There is a history of international legal action as a result of them violating privacy laws, nevermind being privacy friendly: France’s data protection regulator (CNIL) fined Google €325 million in 2025 for displaying ads between Gmail messages without consent and for placing cookies during account creation without consent. This is on top of prior fines of €100 million in 2020 and €150 million in 2021 for cookie viol…
>The FTC went after Zoom in 2020. The complaint alleged that since at least 2016, Zoom misled users by claiming “end-to-end, 256-bit encryption” when it actually provided a lower level of security, and Zoom saved the cryptographic keys that would allow it to access the content of customers’ meetings.
May 7th 2020: https://www.zoom.com/en/blog/zoom-acquires-keybase-and-annou...
May 22nd 2020: https://github.com/zoom/zoom-e2e-whitepaper
E2EE seems to be available to free accounts https://support.zoom.com/hc/en/article?id=zm_kb&sysparm_arti...
(opinions are my own etc.)
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#54Proton lost me after they started posting rage-bait ads on Facebook, targetting other tools and e-mail services, spreading total b.s. and lies.
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#55I would be curious to understand whether they implemented this from scratch or whether they got a whitelabel solution from someone else (and if so, who). I was shocked recently when I looked into this to find out the number of solutions out there.
Proton Meet relies entirely on LiveKit Cloud to run https://proton.me/meet/privacy-policy which uses virtual compute and networking with DigitalOcean, Google and Oracle.
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#56- stupid question: someone is asking me to prove that google, microsoft and zoom are tracking - how do I prove that they are actually not privacy friendly?
I imagine if a person is doubting that big corpos are spying on us, then he is operating in a different paradigm altogether. I suggest this old but still 100% relevant article as a starting conversation point, bonus points for being written by an industry authority. Replace NSA with Google, Amazon, Apple or Microsoft etc. and nothing would meaningfully change.
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/03/metadata_surv...
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#57> in today’s unstable geopolitical environment, laws like the US CLOUD Act can compel US-owned video conferencing platforms to hand over any data they store, even if the servers reside outside of the United States So does that mean two people using this in the US will both have high latency to another country?
Proton Meet relies entirely on LiveKit Cloud (USA based) to run https://proton.me/meet/privacy-policy
LiveKit Cloud uses virtual compute and networking across multiple (USA based) cloud providers. DigitalOcean, Google and Oracle at minimum. They each have servers all of the world of course, but the controlling entity(s) parent companies are all based in the USA.
Latency shouldn’t be a problem, it's handled by a global CDN.
Proton including that part about geopolitical instability implies that Meet is does not fall under the USA's CLOUD Act - that would be wrong. The metadata of any Meet call could be handed to USA authorities, for example the participants date & time, source IP and useragent of each member. The call itself should be E2E encrypted.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
well to be fair american english is just a bunch of typos someone made standardised on because he didn't like the british
Standardized* /s Edit: I thought you were joking and that the answer was more like printing presses and a lack of an official "standard English" in the 1700s/1800s, but it turns out the answer really was closer to what you said. Noah Webster deliberately decided to make American English diverge from British English when he wrote his dictionary.
Yeah, I researched for a throwaway comment, what of it? (I was gonna comment this but decided to read the wikipedia article to ensure I was accurate)
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#59Proton lost me after they started posting rage-bait ads on Facebook, targetting other tools and e-mail services, spreading total b.s. and lies.
Facebook user surprised by rage-bait ads is not something I expected to see today.
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#60Sigh. I guess I’m less amen less the target audience for proton as they (understandably) focus on enterprise/business customers. But bloody hell, I wish they would fix their core products before rolling out all these new ones. Yes, people want to DeGoogle. Fair. But also, people (me!) just want proton mail to easily let me set up basic rules and bulk operations.