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Nuclear receptor 4A1 linked to health effects of coffee: study

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Re: Nuclear receptor 4A1 linked to health effects of coffee: study

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Post by vikingerik »

JXavierH wrote: post #36
Bridged7756 wrote: post #27

I love coffee. It's good for you, it smells and tastes so good. It wakes you up, and prevents sleepiness after meals. Its stimulant nature is a plus, but not necessarily the main thing.

That's why I moved to decaf. Love coffee, caffeine doesn't like me.

FYI since many people don't know: Decaf isn't zero, it can still be several percentage points. In the US decaf is supposed to be under 3% of regular coffee but it's not commonly tested or enforced, so many types of decaf can be quite a bit higher. Several big cups of decaf can approach the caffeine content of one regular cup.

Re: Nuclear receptor 4A1 linked to health effects of coffee: study

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Post by maximinus_thrax »

zingababba wrote: post #4

Nice, maybe it balances out nicotine. People who don't pair caffeine with nicotine simply have no clue what they are missing ;)

I quit smoking a long time ago but if there's one thing I'm missing / craving is a hot cup of coffee with two cigarettes on an empty stomach during cold winter mornings... Fuuuuck.

Re: Nuclear receptor 4A1 linked to health effects of coffee: study

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Post by jorvi »

ifwinterco wrote: post #50
jorvi wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately the most flavorful methods (espresso, french press, moka) also raise your cholesterol. So sadly, no, coffee is not universally "good for you". Filtered coffee methods are though, as the filter absorbs the oils.

Which is why Italians and Greeks famously all die young of heart disease

Always so cute how fellow coffee lovers will loudly boast the health benefits of coffee, but when you add an asterisk they will see it as a personal attack and respond strongly :)

Coffee is not what defines your identity. It's fine to admit it isn't perfect.

Re: Nuclear receptor 4A1 linked to health effects of coffee: study

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Post by esperent »

vikingerik wrote: post #51
JXavierH wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's why I moved to decaf. Love coffee, caffeine doesn't like me.

FYI since many people don't know: Decaf isn't zero, it can still be several percentage points. In the US decaf is supposed to be under 3% of regular coffee but it's not commonly tested or enforced, so many types of decaf can be quite a bit higher. Several big cups of decaf can approach the caffeine content of one regular cup.

> Several big cups of decaf can approach the caffeine content of one regular cup

Do you have a source for this? Because it doesn't sound right to me. And also, I live in a coffee producing company, work adjacent to the coffee industry, and had a long conversation with someone planning to set up a business exporting green beans to the US, and their beans were getting tested to an extreme degree and being rejected for a few ppm over on certain things.

I have heard the 3% rule but fyi it's 1% in the EU and since there's actually not that many large scale decaffeination factories in the world, as far as I know they all target the EU level.

If you buy small batch, large batch, or somewhere in between it's probably been processed in one of these few large factories.

Re: Nuclear receptor 4A1 linked to health effects of coffee: study

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Post by batch12 »

panabee wrote: post #48

Here are more fascinating facts about caffeine and cancer. Caffeine affects the immune system via at least two opposing mechanisms. Mechanism 1: A2A receptor antagonism (immunostimulatory) Tumors and damaged tissues release adenosine, which engages the A2A receptor on immune cells and signals them to stand down. Caffeine antagonizes (i.e., blocks) this receptor. Mechanism 2: Raising intracellular cAMP (immunosuppress…

I'm always up for learning more about everything. Point me in the right direction?

Re: Nuclear receptor 4A1 linked to health effects of coffee: study

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Post by steve_adams_86 »

christophilus wrote: post #38
cf100clunk wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, point taken, but I wasn't following how nicotine properties were connected to coffee's health benefits.

He was suggesting— jokingly— that maybe coffee cancels out the deleterious effects of smoking, because indeed coffee + a cigar or pipe is truly an excellent experience.

Mentat-mode engaged

Re: Nuclear receptor 4A1 linked to health effects of coffee: study

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Post by ifwinterco »

jorvi wrote: post #53
ifwinterco wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is why Italians and Greeks famously all die young of heart disease

Always so cute how fellow coffee lovers will loudly boast the health benefits of coffee, but when you add an asterisk they will see it as a personal attack and respond strongly :) Coffee is not what defines your identity. It's fine to admit it isn't perfect.

My point is not that unfiltered coffee is good, I’m just saying that northern italians who eat dessert for breakfast, cook everything in lard, drink unfiltered coffee and even (gasp) sometimes smoke cigarettes are significantly healthier than Americans on every metric.

Not saying those things are necessarily good for you, I’m just saying we don’t seem to understand this stuff very well

Re: Nuclear receptor 4A1 linked to health effects of coffee: study

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Post by gleenn »

avidiax wrote: post #28
gleenn wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TFA mentions that decaf contains these properties as well.

Not exactly, the article says that the effects aren't linked to caffeine, not that decaf has been shown to have the positive effects or still contain the necessary chemicals.

"This may help explain why both regular and decaffeinated coffee have been associated with similar health benefits in large population studies." --TFA
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