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Re: OpenTrafficMap

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post #34

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Reading the translation of the talk, public transport vehicles have a persistent MAC but for private cars the MAC address changes every 15 minutes.

That still doesn't seem very private.

For a vehicle with a highly visible unique identifier on the front and rear? In my country basically every private carpark has ANPR cameras, the tech is dirt cheap now.

Re: OpenTrafficMap

#52

Codeberg link https://codeberg.org/opentrafficmap

How does the hardware work? It seems like there isn't any radio hardware other than the ESP, so that can natively receive the ITS-G5 messages? Why not just use an ESP board with native ethernet then?

Re: OpenTrafficMap

#53

Found out about this today, up until now 802.11p hardware is very expensive, and so you cannot easily do anything with V2x messages like CAM or SPAT, but the fact this was done with sub £20 hardware is really interesting.

Fully agree. That's the most interesting thing about this.

Re: OpenTrafficMap

#54
post #4

Cool, but it there's no links for more info, and it doesn't seem to work in the USA at all.

The project was shared as part of a talk at Graz Linux Tage. You can find it here, unfortunately it is only available in German https://media.ccc.de/v/glt26-688-c-its-mit-einem-esp32-ampel...

Happy to see this popping up here, I watched the Linux Tage talk last week. The demo just kept getting better and better, to a point where the audience just interruptively cheers and claps away. I know nothing about the contents, but this warmed my heart. True hacker project!

Re: OpenTrafficMap

#55
post #52

Codeberg link https://codeberg.org/opentrafficmap

How does the hardware work? It seems like there isn't any radio hardware other than the ESP, so that can natively receive the ITS-G5 messages? Why not just use an ESP board with native ethernet then?

They are doing it with the standard WIFI receiver. Currently they are sending the Wireshark dumps to a backend for processing.

According to their presentation they are working on a rust firmware to do everything on the board.

Re: OpenTrafficMap

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The site is definitely lacking. It's half in German, half in English. The concept is that there is this protocol called ITS-G5, which is a European profile of 802.11p. Vehicles and traffic infrastructure can transmit telemetry on 5 GHz. Other vehicles and traffic infrastructure can use it for situational awareness. This website collects that data using local receivers and aggregates it onto a map, similar to what web…

Reading the translation of the talk, public transport vehicles have a persistent MAC but for private cars the MAC address changes every 15 minutes.

As discussed in the video they are not resetting the packet sequence number though, making it easy to match them with the other data transmitted.

Re: OpenTrafficMap

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post #41
post #34

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That still doesn't seem very private.

Particularly anywhere rural or off the beaten path

You wouln‘t really have the kind if hardware there. The communication relies on a multi hop mesh that would‘t work anywhere without sufficient coverage.

Re: OpenTrafficMap

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post #37

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The Germans and Danes and Swedes and Norwegians I see on the Internet developing and publishing software often have a better grasp of the English language than many born in the USA Americans.

That's true for Scandinavians, Germans are not as gut.

Ja ja, maybe not as gut as the Scandinavians, but still better than many US Americans.

Re: OpenTrafficMap

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The site is definitely lacking. It's half in German, half in English. The concept is that there is this protocol called ITS-G5, which is a European profile of 802.11p. Vehicles and traffic infrastructure can transmit telemetry on 5 GHz. Other vehicles and traffic infrastructure can use it for situational awareness. This website collects that data using local receivers and aggregates it onto a map, similar to what web…

What about the traffic lights on the map do they also have transmitters?

Yes, they also have transmitters. The traffic lights send out MAPEM and SPATEM messages. They describe the layout of the lanes at the intersection as well as the red/green phase timings of the signal.

In Graz, the city where the authors live, there are 165 of such signals planned.

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