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"People who don't use AI will be left behind"

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Re: "People who don't use AI will be left behind"

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Post by beepbooptheory »

I just don't get even the presumed risk here. How can something be so revolutionary in its capacity to increase productivity but still so esoteric or specialized that there is a risk of being "left behind"? Like all these things people talk about are, at the end of the day, products that want you to use them; they aren't gonna make it hard for someone to onboard in the future. Sure if all coding became ecommerce overnight and I'd never "learned" Salesforce, there might be brief friction there, but I could still just, like, learn Salesforce. It's gonna be a lot easier than learning good software engineering in general.

Why spend your life "learning" something whose whole deal is about not needing to learn? Even if you gamble incorrectly, its not going to be hard to get into!

Like, what, if I don't start practicing now I am not going to be able to... express concepts with natural language as well?

Re: "People who don't use AI will be left behind"

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Post by baddash »

this discussion is so stupid. no one who isn't a moron is offloading all work and thought to LLMs. no one who isn't a moron is seriously afraid of their thinking and learning skill "atrophying", whatever tf that means.

it's clear that LLMs are unique in that you actually do have the capability to turn your brain off and blindly trust whatever it does for you. but it should be equally clear that that's a stupid approach. people will still use their minds, and this use gets empowered with proper use of LLMs. it's that simple. ffs, we take the fact that they pass the Turing Test routinely for granted now. let's not forget that this technology is legitimately incredible. it stands to reason that you are seriously handicapping yourself by not trying to use it.

Re: "People who don't use AI will be left behind"

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Post by cyanydeez »

mgaunard wrote: post #43

I find that good people get better with AI, but I'm not sure more average people really do. I've seen some produce stuff without really understanding it, barely review anything, and pretty much suffer from imposter syndrome.

I think what we're seeing is it's just an amplification of whatever intrinsic motivations people have; the whole mirror to the self thing, on steroids.

Obviously people who are motivated by curiousity will have a different view and those who value creativity will end up thinking otherwise.

Also, it's basically impossible to separate the technical capabilities with the big money fascists pushing it.

Re: "People who don't use AI will be left behind"

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Post by mawadev »

dudisubekti wrote: post #7

Black-and-white thinking like this is not healthy. You can still do creative thinking while using AI as a powerful tool at your disposal. Some mathematicians like Terence Tao are comfortable doing this, for example.

I feel like I use AI this way, but a majority of my peers lean too much into it. There used to be the sentence "we don't think, we google", and I see that with ai usage. As soon as a roadblock appears, the situation is pasted in GPT without further engaging with it, then they pick up the phone and open an app while GPT does its thing 0_o

Re: "People who don't use AI will be left behind"

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Post by furyofantares »

moron4hire wrote: post #34
furyofantares wrote: post #13

Some people who don't use AI will be left behind - those who work on things where LLM's are capable of a substantial amount of the tasks will be left behind if they just refuse to leverage the superhuman properties that LLMs have. I don't think it's hard to catch up if such a person changes their mind, though. Some people who do use AI will be also left behind - those who use it to replace their skills without develo…

If LLMs mean I never have to open a PowerPoint from a client to pull out their "data" again, that'd be great. I gain nothing from being a manual data entry monkey for people who don't understand the concept that presentation-ready output formats are not data transmission formats. But if I'm to be expected to employ vibecoding in my day to day job as a software engineer, I'll dismantle my house and go live off grid so…

For now at least, I think it really depends on what type of coding that is.

I don't have any particular predictions going forward about it, but something I think about right now is, do I want to focus my time where the interesting decisions, the valuable contributions I make, are product-level thinking about what to build and what problems to solve? Or do I want to focus my time where the interesting decisions are technical ones, fully wrapping my head around a technical problem and coming up with a solution?

I do think both options are still available, and personally I love them both. But I don't know what types of coding would involve significant amounts of both activities anymore.

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