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OpenAI models coming to Amazon Bedrock: Interview with OpenAI and AWS CEOs

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Re: OpenAI models coming to Amazon Bedrock: Interview with OpenAI and AWS CEOs

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post #32

Well that didn't take long.

It probably did, but the PR stream that the public sees is a well oiled machine. This HN post itself has 4 simultaneous announcement links; not a coincidence. There are billions of investor money on the line if the wrong thing is said at the wrong time, it needs to be carefully crafted and staged.

I guess OpenAI's CFO didn't get the memo[0].

0. https://www.cnbc.com/video/2026/04/28/tech-shares-fall-after...

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#53
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given the scaling hurdles Claude Code / Opus is having, those Anthropic customers might leave to Codex. I'm _this_ close.

Codex is pretty good. Its friction to switch but I think it’s sensible being across multiple AI toolchains.

Thing is, if you're using Codex, you're supporting Sam Altman and the idea of Sam Altmans, in the same way that if you use X or buy a Tesla, you're supporting Elon Musk and the idea of Elon Musks. That's a pretty big tax to factor into the usage of such products. If you even got 5% better coding results, would that make up for the future they're trying to build?

Re: OpenAI models coming to Amazon Bedrock: Interview with OpenAI and AWS CEOs

#54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Codex is pretty good. Its friction to switch but I think it’s sensible being across multiple AI toolchains.

Thing is, if you're using Codex, you're supporting Sam Altman and the idea of Sam Altmans, in the same way that if you use X or buy a Tesla, you're supporting Elon Musk and the idea of Elon Musks. That's a pretty big tax to factor into the usage of such products. If you even got 5% better coding results, would that make up for the future they're trying to build?

Dario wants to replace you with AI as well. Don't be fooled into thinking he's your friend because he said no to Trump that one time. I'll remind you that Musk used to be the left's hero not too long ago.

Re: OpenAI models coming to Amazon Bedrock: Interview with OpenAI and AWS CEOs

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Claude got a looooot more buy in with a lot of privacy-concerned orgs I work with because they could access it through their "trusted" intermediate Amazon. OpenAI has been banned and is not trusted. I'm not sure that I agree with these orgs' legal teams' assessments, but they definitely read the terms of service far closer than I did. We will see if this changes the equation, but it feels like OpenAI is pretty far be…

You can sign ZDR agreements with any of the major LLM providers. Using AWS alone is also not sufficient. Even though AWS is running the model, you need to contact them for proper ZDR.[0]

[0]: https://platform.claude.com/docs/en/build-with-claude/claude...

Re: OpenAI models coming to Amazon Bedrock: Interview with OpenAI and AWS CEOs

#56

Claude got a looooot more buy in with a lot of privacy-concerned orgs I work with because they could access it through their "trusted" intermediate Amazon. OpenAI has been banned and is not trusted. I'm not sure that I agree with these orgs' legal teams' assessments, but they definitely read the terms of service far closer than I did. We will see if this changes the equation, but it feels like OpenAI is pretty far be…

Legally, SLA, and data concern-wise, is this any better than OpenAI on Azure? That has been around for a while.

You don’t have to use Azure.

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#57
post #5

As someone who works at big tech and spends countless hours in meetings hoping to get some small feature coordinated for deployment across two teams, I can't imagine the amount of meetings and 6-pagers that were involved in running these models on bedrock's hardware.

at this level they just decide and spin up a swat team to execute it in a couple weeks without politicking. the bureaucratic ways, reviews are just for the low levels, to keep them busy with feature scraps while they mostly do operations

yup, I think there are few public articles on aws mantle so you can look it up, but internally this is pretty common knowledge. The entire inference engine of bedrock is built and maintained by a handful of ec2 engineers (all principals and above). Judging by the commit history of the project they are able to just build independent of any of the traditional bureaucracy.

Re: OpenAI models coming to Amazon Bedrock: Interview with OpenAI and AWS CEOs

#58

Claude got a looooot more buy in with a lot of privacy-concerned orgs I work with because they could access it through their "trusted" intermediate Amazon. OpenAI has been banned and is not trusted. I'm not sure that I agree with these orgs' legal teams' assessments, but they definitely read the terms of service far closer than I did. We will see if this changes the equation, but it feels like OpenAI is pretty far be…

While Anthopic has the best model and a focussed (no disturbance, lawsuits) leadership, they got a lot of enterprise access due to AWS. It is mutual no doubt, with both sides benefitting. The culture of feedback loop of AWS customers would have helped them in getting to enterprise-ready faster. Just my hypothesis.

Re: OpenAI models coming to Amazon Bedrock: Interview with OpenAI and AWS CEOs

#59
post #41

Availability through Bedrock has been a major driver in use of Anthropic in my org. And I am betting there is actual margin in it as well. I wonder if this is directly linked to the split up with Microsoft. Just from my anecdata, OpenAI is getting completely ignored in serious enterprise deployments because what they offer on Azure sucks and there is no other corporate friendly way to get it. They probably saw themse…

Just curious, what’s wrong with Azure?
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