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Re: GoDaddy gave a domain to a stranger without any documentation

#51

I have no reason why would anyone use godaddy 10 years ago let alone today

It's literally the largest registrar in the world, by a large margin. When you're a business and want something reliable, picking the most popular provider is usually a strategy that works decently well. They're more likely to have established processes that work for all sorts of cases. That's what makes this particular story so egregious. Domains are a very funny business. I can't think of anything so crucial to bus…

> When you're a business and want something reliable, picking the most popular provider is usually a strategy that works decently well.

That is also at least 10 years old stale matter. Have you ever read people wrongly being locked out from a BIIIIG provider unable to get through to get remedy? Apparently no. I did. I am sure several other people here did too.

Motto: "Eat shit! A trillion flies cannot be wrong!"

Re: GoDaddy gave a domain to a stranger without any documentation

#52
Likely an inside job. I had a similar experience with AWS where my account was compromised despite the fact that I had all the proper security features enabled. It was later discovered internal contractors were responsible. But up to that point AWS blamed the issue on me with no proof. A call to the AG office in my state got the ball rolling and initiated an investigation that finally got a manager to take the case seriously.

Re: GoDaddy gave a domain to a stranger without any documentation

#53

At the risk of sounding snarky; Last Saturday afternoon one of his client’s domains vanished from his GoDaddy account. Lee is one of the most competent IT guys I know. 'Competent' and 'client's domains [hosted on] GoDaddy' don't go together.

Where would you host domains?

If it is extremely critical, MarkMonitor.

Otherwise, Porkbun or Cloudflare Domains if you're ok using their DNS.

Re: GoDaddy gave a domain to a stranger without any documentation

#55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then a paid support plan at $500/mo for those mho want it?

Markmonitor touts itself as an expensive but reliable registrar. I don't know what it costs.

IIRC, when I used it for my employer .com was $100/domain year, registry lock for eligible tlds was $1000/domain year (I forget if that included the domain), and there was a minimum annual spend that I don't remember, but might have been $10k-$30k. They have new ownership since then, so I dunno.

The only issue we had was when we wanted to change our nameservers and our authorized contact for registry lock didn't answer the phone for the verification call, so we had to postpone the change for the next day. But that's what is supposed to happen, so no big deal.

Better than networksolutions changing our nameservers when one of their support agents got phished.

Re: GoDaddy gave a domain to a stranger without any documentation

#56

I have no reason why would anyone use godaddy 10 years ago let alone today

It's literally the largest registrar in the world, by a large margin. When you're a business and want something reliable, picking the most popular provider is usually a strategy that works decently well. They're more likely to have established processes that work for all sorts of cases. That's what makes this particular story so egregious. Domains are a very funny business. I can't think of anything so crucial to bus…

> They're more likely to have established processes that work for all sorts of cases.

In my experience the sentence is only correct this way: "They're more likely to have established processes for all sorts of cases"

They have lots of clients. They have big opportunities to streamline support (which is a cost center). ... do you see where it leads? Read the OP, if not!

Re: GoDaddy gave a domain to a stranger without any documentation

#57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where would you host domains?

Literally anywhere else, GoDaddy is utter trash and has been for many years. Namecheap is the one I use personally.

I do wish Namecheap's Dynamic DNS support supported IPv6 though...

Re: GoDaddy gave a domain to a stranger without any documentation

#58

At the risk of sounding snarky; Last Saturday afternoon one of his client’s domains vanished from his GoDaddy account. Lee is one of the most competent IT guys I know. 'Competent' and 'client's domains [hosted on] GoDaddy' don't go together.

It does sound snarky, maybe GoDaddy was the cheaper option at one point and they stuck with it. I get that.

I use some square space for a lot of stuff, but it's largely because Google Domains sold out and the price is "fine." Sure, I could use something else, but this works, the cost is correct, and - I can't stress this enough - it already freaking works. I also use a python as a service tool I point at frequently. Their customer service is great, so I doubt this would ever happen there? But yeah, I'm not manually configuring a server somewhere most of the time.

Is it the "best" possible tool for the job? Not really, but it works well enough for the stuff I use and my workflows are already rock solid to deploy code to prod, etc. Is it because it's impossible for me to spin up a VPS or I'm too stupid to figure out Hetzner? Probably. But no, I've done it before, I could do it again, but that would take me X hours that I'm not getting paid for to migrate for limited utility, possible customer interruptions, and stress. I might need to migrate in a year or so, but until then, I'm not going to bother.

I reckon that's a similar sort of thing that happened here and depending on what they're doing business-wise, Lee could be insanely competent IT person and was just unlucky because the hammer he reached out for with GoDaddy actually turned out to be a foot gun that took years to fire.

It happens, it's not ideal, but it happens - I'm just glad they got it figured out and I'm glad that these sorts of events percolate up in the hn zeitgeist, because I definitely know who I won't be turning to in the future. Like, I kind of already knew GoDaddy was trash? I used them something like 10 years ago to spool up a website for a friend of mine. The whole experience was garbage then and I said, "never again" - but also that was kind of at the beginning of me even learning about how this stuff works? But I could totally see a scenario where I get snared into a product ecosystem and the opportunity cost of switching out of it outweighs staying put until it blows up in my face.

Re: GoDaddy gave a domain to a stranger without any documentation

#59

Wait few hours. Some CTO or PR guru will post a message here. - We are totally revamping our processes. This never happened out of incompetence. Humans make mistakes. We are contacting the client for 1 year free renewal - waiving. Will mail a coupon code. We consider this issue closed.

Or a very long "let me explain why this is ok actually" from a "random" account

Re: GoDaddy gave a domain to a stranger without any documentation

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post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where would you host domains?

If it is extremely critical, MarkMonitor. Otherwise, Porkbun or Cloudflare Domains if you're ok using their DNS.

What's good about MarkMonitor? All I see is Gartner-friendly buzzwords and AI generated "business people".
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