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Re: Clay PCB Tutorial

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Post by kennywinker »

JCTheDenthog wrote: post #26
fxtentacle wrote: post #17

I truly don’t understand what the hope to gain from self-classifying this is “feminist”. “FEMINIST HACKING: BUILDING CIRCUITS AS AN ARTISTIC PRACTICE – an international art-based research project financed by the Austrian Science Fund (FWF)” Doesn’t that kind of invite the worst type of trolls? They seem to imply that feminist = artistically produced, as opposed to professionally produced PCBs. So masculine = professi…

And it's taxpayer funded, to boot. I definitely wouldn't be happy as an Austrian if I knew my taxes were going to something like this (meanwhile hobbyists elsewhere do projects like this on their own dime).

Where do you see taxpayer funding? It looks like the hack space has gov funding - but i didn’t see any acknowledgement of grants for this project.

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Post by pron »

fxtentacle wrote: post #17

I truly don’t understand what the hope to gain from self-classifying this is “feminist”. “FEMINIST HACKING: BUILDING CIRCUITS AS AN ARTISTIC PRACTICE – an international art-based research project financed by the Austrian Science Fund (FWF)” Doesn’t that kind of invite the worst type of trolls? They seem to imply that feminist = artistically produced, as opposed to professionally produced PCBs. So masculine = professi…

Feminism is not femininity and so is not to be contrasted with masculinity [1].

Feminism is originally about gender (power-) equality (and so is orthogonal to femininity and masculinity), but has been extended to other forms of power equality. I think that in this context it's about concern for certain things that established practices don't show concern for. Such concern could perhaps translate to certain power dynamics.

[1]: One of the feminist icons in recent popular culture is Ron Swanson from Parks and Recreation, who is also an icon of butch masculinity. I don't know if he would have loved or hated this. On the one hand, the description sounds hippy, which he would have hated; on the other hand, it's about do-it-yourself, non-industrial craftsmenship, which he would have loved.

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Post by jedimastert »

deadeye wrote: post #14

Interesting project but I can't tell, is the language used supposed to be satire?

Honestly, the language isn't super off or abnormal in other circles, maybe it's a lot more telling that when posted on a tech-oriented site it's seen as ridiculous

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Post by fwipsy »

fxtentacle wrote: post #17

I truly don’t understand what the hope to gain from self-classifying this is “feminist”. “FEMINIST HACKING: BUILDING CIRCUITS AS AN ARTISTIC PRACTICE – an international art-based research project financed by the Austrian Science Fund (FWF)” Doesn’t that kind of invite the worst type of trolls? They seem to imply that feminist = artistically produced, as opposed to professionally produced PCBs. So masculine = professi…

I think "feminist" here means "socially conscious," not "small-batch/artistic."

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Post by Avicebron »

fwipsy wrote: post #54
fxtentacle wrote: post #17

I truly don’t understand what the hope to gain from self-classifying this is “feminist”. “FEMINIST HACKING: BUILDING CIRCUITS AS AN ARTISTIC PRACTICE – an international art-based research project financed by the Austrian Science Fund (FWF)” Doesn’t that kind of invite the worst type of trolls? They seem to imply that feminist = artistically produced, as opposed to professionally produced PCBs. So masculine = professi…

I think "feminist" here means "socially conscious," not "small-batch/artistic."

Except "free-range feminist eggs" is sort of a weird sentence.

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Post by fwipsy »

oulipo2 wrote: post #27
fxtentacle wrote: post #17

I truly don’t understand what the hope to gain from self-classifying this is “feminist”. “FEMINIST HACKING: BUILDING CIRCUITS AS AN ARTISTIC PRACTICE – an international art-based research project financed by the Austrian Science Fund (FWF)” Doesn’t that kind of invite the worst type of trolls? They seem to imply that feminist = artistically produced, as opposed to professionally produced PCBs. So masculine = professi…

Well if you were a creative/researcher-type of person, the mere fact that you don't understand what she hopes to gain would push you to read about it. You'd discover the very real links between tech and gender inequalities (or the reinforcement of other minority inequalities) and you'd have learn something

I think parent comment is probably aware of gender inequalities in tech.

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Post by culi »

lucid-dev wrote: post #40

New generations have new language and are attempting to define themselves through their usage of certain terminology and re-framing of words (Arduino -> Arduina). This isn't satire and it doesn't have to be dismissed. While I don't find increasing the definition and perceived uniqueness of one's personality and identity is necessarily a positive social thing, it's pretty much the most common thing in today's world -…

The language bit is dual purpose. For one it's clearly tongue in cheek. Furthermore, it's a way to scare off people who would get set off from a little bit of language play. It's a way to make an online space free of people they don't want without actually putting up hard borders or moving it to a less public space. (Personally I think it's a wonderful strategy)

All the commenters here that are too set off to engage with the article are exactly what they were hoping for

Re: Clay PCB Tutorial

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Post by balamatom »

poulpy123 wrote: post #11
balamatom wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Although I am not sure why they then chose an open wood fire, which is likely far more polluting than even non-renewable grid power Likely not if you factor in the energy expenditure of gathering some firewood vs. energy expenditure of putting up a power grid. inb4 "but it's already there" lmao

You need a grid infrastructure to build and ship the rest of the electronics as well as to use the board. It's a fun dit/artistic project but the political discourse used to describe it is absurd

Most political discourse you consider normal today (e.g. "fun") was considered absurd some years ago. Fewer than you imagine.

Re: Clay PCB Tutorial

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Post by Arodex »

skybrian wrote: post #10

Interesting experiment, but on the other hand, maybe 3D printing would have less emissions than an open fire? I’ve not tried this, but it sounds like a good way to get fast turnaround for very simple circuits: https://bsky.app/profile/castpixel.bsky.social/post/3mf52azn...

Wood fired are CO2 neutral (but a problem of pollution with fine particulate at scale in poorly ventilated valleys).
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