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Re: Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.0

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Post by IshKebab »

functionmouse wrote: post #13
brynet wrote: post #12

>.. macOS only ever programs CS42L84 to operate at either 48 or 96 kHz, we could only add support for those two sample rates to the Linux driver .. > However, CS42L42 supports all the other common sample rates, and while the register layout and programming sequence is different, the actual values programmed in for 48 and 96 kHz are the same across both chips. What would happen if we simply took the values for all oth…

whoa, bit perfect CD/flac playback in 44.1, that's a killer feature.

There are many audio resampling libraries available that can convert from 44.1 to 48 kHz with no perceptible quality loss. E.g. see

https://github.com/hasenbanck/resampler#quality-analysis

This is presumably what Apple does. You kind of have to anyway or you have the stupid situation Linux used to have where only one app could play audio at a time.

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.0

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Post by mhh__ »

aurareturn wrote: post #41
jwr wrote: post #4

When I think about it, I don't understand why Apple wouldn't want to help this effort and just provide all the documentation. All the classic reasons ("competitive advantage", "secrets", etc) do not hold water in this day and age.

Little to no monetary benefit, hardware changes now need to be documented for Linux, loudest and most critical users but smallest volume.

I don't know if that's true. Linux users are curious and will try more stuff but people mistake that they file bug reports (and usually detailed ones...) with complaining more.

Apple's MO is that it's their baby. End of. They don't do open. Their compiler is closed source, and so on.

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.0

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Post by freedomben »

georgeburdell wrote: post #37

I really hope this project continues to gain momentum. Apple Hardware + Linux is the least fscked OS running on the best hardware. MacOS continues to be a tire fire with endless bugs and churn between versions.

You should give Framework a try. It's been a flawless experience with Fedora. And with the upcoming Framework 13 Pro, battery life and trackpad are expected to be on par (or in the case of battery, even better than macos)

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.0

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Post by chronogram »

IshKebab wrote: post #51
functionmouse wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

whoa, bit perfect CD/flac playback in 44.1, that's a killer feature.

There are many audio resampling libraries available that can convert from 44.1 to 48 kHz with no perceptible quality loss. E.g. see https://github.com/hasenbanck/resampler#quality-analysis This is presumably what Apple does. You kind of have to anyway or you have the stupid situation Linux used to have where only one app could play audio at a time.

Hardware often reports supporting 44.1kHz but internally resamples it to 48kHz so you're better off properly resampling it yourself.

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.0

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Post by sandreas »

While I love Asahi as such and am really blown away by the effort, my setup requires an encrypted ZFS root file system, which is unreasonably hard to achieve with a Mac.

The fact, that there has to be a macOS partition for maintenance ruling out ZFSBootMenu somehow is very unfortunate - but I've accepted it.

Maybe the new Framework 13 Pro will be at least in the region of an alternative... :-/

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.0

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Post by saadn92 »

jwr wrote: post #4

When I think about it, I don't understand why Apple wouldn't want to help this effort and just provide all the documentation. All the classic reasons ("competitive advantage", "secrets", etc) do not hold water in this day and age.

The real answer is probably simpler than anyone here is making it. Apple hardware margins are healthy enough that selling macbooks to linux users is pure profit, so no services lock-in needed. However, the moment they officially acknowledge Linux support, then it becomes a support surface. Every kernel panic becomes a genius bar visit. Every driver bug becomes a tweet at @AppleSupport. It's the value of plausible deniability. The Asahi team being unofficial is actually the best possible outcome for Apple in that they get hardware sales to Linux enthusiasts without any support burden.

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.0

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Post by rowanG077 »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #31
mmcnl wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was trying to come up with a response but you're right. It would be easy for Apple and Apple would get so much goodwill from the community in return.

They get more public goodwill from a single ad. The chronically online Linux-using engineer community is too small to matter.

Looking at: https://stats.asahilinux.org/ there is still a pretty large userbase who are so interested in it they go this route. I imagine that count would easily 10x if it would be officially supported. Those numbers are nothing to sneeze at.

I'm running asahi on my macbook. And never touch OSX. I wouldn't even had gotten it if asahi wasn't so well supported.

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.0

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Post by WhyNotHugo »

felixding wrote: post #8

"Amaze, amaze, amaze!" I wonder if there would be interest in an Asahi Remix spin focused on a more Mac-like out-of-the-box experience: cmd as the main modifier key, Mac-like keyboard shortcuts, theming, gestures, etc. Of course, you can tweak any distro however you want, but I think a curated default experience is a different thing.

Cmd as a “main” modifier?

Ok typical X/Wayland setups, Cmd is already the main modifier for DE features, while Ctrl is the modifier used at an application level.

There would be a lot of weird overlap with changing that.

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