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When the cheap one is the cool one

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Re: When the cheap one is the cool one

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I'm surprised "mobile phone specs with laptop form factor" isn't a larger product base. Modern smartphones seem capable enough to run a lot of "normal" software, obviously not super heavy ones like after effects or something, but for lighter tasks (web browsing etc), it seems like a good market

Re: When the cheap one is the cool one

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I got the citrus version because it made such a change from the usual. However, I'd love it if Apple could make some truly vibrant non-pastel colours like tangerine and lime devices they did in the early days.

Ah, fond memories of the original CRT iMacs. I think you could take off the color covering and replace it with a different one? More color choices that there are Pokemon games.

I always wanted one but could never afford it. Now I can afford it, they're not available

Re: When the cheap one is the cool one

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The thing that keeps me questioning is the "its using binned parts" dialogue. I'm sure _some_ parts might be discards from the iphone 16, but the volume they had at launch to me suggests that not the story. I've read somewhere that they made/budgeted for 5 million laptops shipped this quarter/half. but if they are made from binned CPUs, that suggests at least 4-7% yeild loss for the original iphone CPU. Bear in mind…

> The thing that keeps me questioning is the "its using binned parts" dialogue.

How is this different from any other computer product?

Re: When the cheap one is the cool one

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Weighing up a Neo vs Framework 12 for my kids. The Neo is nicer, but I'll probably get the Framework even though it's more expensive. Apple products seem to have a fixed shelf life; a certain number of years of support and then the machine is slowly incompatible with apps that have since moved on to newer versions of macOS. Meanwhile Framework supports Linux and is still providing hardware/software upgrade paths for…

Just my personal perspective, every Apple laptop I've ever owned has lasted 10+ years. Their phones may have some planned obsolescence, but I don't find that to be the case at all with their computers.

I still use a 2012 MacBook Air 11” for running Zoom calls.

It’s stuck in Catalina, but I still get updates.

Most apps run fine on it.

Apple kit lasts a long time.

Re: When the cheap one is the cool one

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post #27

> Cut back to Porsche in 1992, and you’ll see a similar story playing out in a very different industry. Back then, Porsche was not in the fantastic position it is in today. Its model lineup was aging. Perhaps picking Porsche for this analogy wasn't necessarily the best choice: https://investorrelations.porsche.com/en/financial-informati... So much for "fantastic position it is in today"...

i might be mistaken but you are looking at Porsche AG; the actual car company was made into a holding in 2007 and now called Porsche SE, then founded Porsche AG to make the cars.

Porsche AG is part of the Volkswagen Group that is owned by Porsche SE.

either way car manufacture is not a big profit game

Re: When the cheap one is the cool one

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Apple has been doing this for ages. The base tier one always gets the fun colors while the pro models get silver, grey, and maybe some muted blue. Not sure why they make the cheaper models cooler than the top tier ones. Maybe it's just too expensive to stock multiple colors of every product. The Neo has minimal customization options for specs so making it colorful is cheaper.

In the very olden days of 1999-ish when I worked for a very expensive AV shop in Glasgow, we used to be an agent for Loewe. You could order your expensive (like four times as much as an equivalent top-spec Sony, three times as much as Grundig) TV in any colour you liked - they'd spray it anything you wanted.

One of the last jobs I did for them before moving onto a very early streaming video company in 2000 was opening up this pristine "Oxford Blue Metallic" (stock Landrover colour from the time, mine is that colour) 32" TV and fitting a VGA adaptor board to it so the customer could play videos and games from his PC on his new telly directly. It had a scan line doubler in to reduce flicker, which I guess was the precursor of "Mexican Soap Opera Mode" in modern TVs, and that allowed it to display 1280x720x50p smoothly.

It looked fantastic but I don't know that it was £3700-in-early-2000s-money fantastic - or about seven grand today.

Imagine paying three and a half grand for a telly, even if it was sprayed the same colour as your 80 grand Range Rover.

Re: When the cheap one is the cool one

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I'm definitely getting sick of the dull colours in the higher end laptops. Give me a yellow, give me a red, forest green, whatever, anything but silver and darker silver

$10 in enamel paints and a free half hour and you can have as cool looking of a laptop as you like!

You can fairly easily get skins that will customize your laptop. I’ve done that, in the past.

Seems the thing most people are into, these says, is “bumper stickers” on their laptop lids. I suspect neutral colors work best for that.

I’ve found that I tend to replace my primary development machine every 3 years or so. Since retiring, I don’t travel much, so I got an M4Pro Mini. Works great, and I still have my M1Max MacBook Pro (my previous development machine), for when I want to hit the road.

Re: When the cheap one is the cool one

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post #42

Weighing up a Neo vs Framework 12 for my kids. The Neo is nicer, but I'll probably get the Framework even though it's more expensive. Apple products seem to have a fixed shelf life; a certain number of years of support and then the machine is slowly incompatible with apps that have since moved on to newer versions of macOS. Meanwhile Framework supports Linux and is still providing hardware/software upgrade paths for…

The question is not as much shelf life, as whether you want your kids to be builders or consumers.

You can put Linux on Macbooks, you can build on macOS.

Re: When the cheap one is the cool one

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post #8

I am so tired of everything electronic only coming in black and maybe gray. I like colors! So it's nice to see apple finally bringing a bit of color back.

I'm fine with a case. I can change the color to match my outfit

https://www.amazon.com/Se7enline-Compatible-MacBook-Protecti...

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