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What are the equivalent institutions in China? Do they do open houses?

I disagree with this move, but the people who lost these positions were in temporary advisory roles. This isn’t a career job for them. The article says 8 members are replaced every 2 years and the terms are 6 years long. Between 1/4 or 1/2 of them would have been replaced during this presidency, and whoever gets placed now will start to be replaced by the next administration. As for China: They’re not known for havin…

I don’t share your optimism that these positions will be replaced. I don’t know why you think they would be.

Re: Trump fires NSF's oversight board

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post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If a house has a rotten foundation, a good plan will start with "let's tear it down". Not every plan that starts with "let's tear it down" will be a good plan.

well the first step is the same, so might as well get that part done with.

You will not live forever. Would applying the same logic again suit you?

Timing matters. Where current resources go matters. Having a plan matters. The current system is not perfect but it’s far better than no system at all.

Re: Trump fires NSF's oversight board

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post #26

It's just own-goal after owl-goal with this administration. Federal research funding (NIH, NSF, etc) becomes economic power. I personally think the government should get a return on their research dollars but basically federally funded research has been given away to private companies since 1980 [1]. Interestingly, the Bayh-Dole Act was signed by president Jimmy Carter in a lame duck Congress after Ronald Reagan's el…

>It's just own-goal after owl-goal with this administration.

The presumes that "Trump Administration" and "United States of America" are the same thing. The reality is that a Venn diagram of them would be two circles that barely touch. Is it really an "own goal" if you gravely injure your victim while you rob them?

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They're first at lots of things!

Largest incarcerated population, highest infant mortality rate in the developed world, highest military spending, highest obesity rate in the developed world, highest rate of school shootings by a huge margin, and the highest gun ownership rate by a long shot (edit: pun not intended)!

USA! USA! USA!

Re: Trump fires NSF's oversight board

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There’s only one reason to get rid of all the smart people, shenanigans are afoot.

Dr. Jessica Knurick has done a great job IMO breaking down how authoritarian governments co-opt science to their own ends and end up destroying it in the process. Here is one such article, https://open.substack.com/pub/drjessicaknurick/p/the-authori..., but she has lots of posts and short form videos explaining the topic.

Re: Trump fires NSF's oversight board

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What are the equivalent institutions in China? Do they do open houses?

I disagree with this move, but the people who lost these positions were in temporary advisory roles. This isn’t a career job for them. The article says 8 members are replaced every 2 years and the terms are 6 years long. Between 1/4 or 1/2 of them would have been replaced during this presidency, and whoever gets placed now will start to be replaced by the next administration. As for China: They’re not known for havin…

Oh so only 1/2 to 3/4 of them were terminated far outside of norms. I guess only 50%-75% corrupt anti-science activity is totally ok.

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They're first at lots of things! Largest incarcerated population, highest infant mortality rate in the developed world, highest military spending, highest obesity rate in the developed world, highest rate of school shootings by a huge margin, and the highest gun ownership rate by a long shot (edit: pun not intended)! USA! USA! USA!

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