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Amateur armed with ChatGPT solves an Erdős problem
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Re: Amateur armed with ChatGPT solves an Erdős problem
#52Re: Amateur armed with ChatGPT solves an Erdős problem
#53I wonder if the rationalizations people come up with for why this isn't real intelligence will be as creative as ChatGPTs solution.
This is real intelligence is the bear position, so I think it’s real intelligence.
Re: Amateur armed with ChatGPT solves an Erdős problem
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
What your describing sounds more like the model is lacking awareness than lacking intelligence? Why does it need to know it solved the problem to be intelligent?
We say African Elephants are intelligent for a number of reasons, one of which is because they remember where sources of water are in very dry conditions, and can successfully navigate back to them across relatively large distances. An intelligent being that can't remember its own past is at a significant disadvantage compared to others that can, which is exactly one of the reasons why alzheimers patients often requi…
You are confusing lack of intelligence with the presence of impairment.
Re: Amateur armed with ChatGPT solves an Erdős problem
#55I wonder if the rationalizations people come up with for why this isn't real intelligence will be as creative as ChatGPTs solution.
And how about the creative rationalizations about how statistical text generation is actual intelligence? As if there is any intent or motive behind the words that are generated or the ability to learn literally any new thing after it has been trained on human output?
Re: Amateur armed with ChatGPT solves an Erdős problem
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is there a known lag that it takes the Pro plan's abilities to migrate to the free plans?
GPT 5.5 Pro is not available to any plan outside of ChatGPT Pro ($100 or $200) tier or the API as far as consumer access.
Yes, but don't we expect GPT 5.5 Pro will eventually be a free tier? Maybe I'm missing something because I only use the free tier. But the free tier has gotten way better over the last few years. I'm pretty sure, based on descriptions on this site from paid subscribers, that the free tier now is better than the paid tier of say 2 years ago. That's the lag I'm wondering about.
Re: Amateur armed with ChatGPT solves an Erdős problem
#57My big question with all these announcements is: How many other people were using the AI on problems like this, and, failing? Given the excitement around AI at the moment I think the answer is: a lot. Then my second question is how much VC money did all those tokens cost .
Can you imagine how many bags of chips we could buy if we stopped funding cancer research?
It's so expensive!
Re: Amateur armed with ChatGPT solves an Erdős problem
#58> He’s 23 years old and has no advanced mathematics training. How is he even posing the question and having even a vague idea of what the proof means or how to understand it?
> “I didn’t know what the problem was—I was just doing Erdős problems as I do sometimes, giving them to the AI and seeing what it can come up with,” he says. “And it came up with what looked like a right solution.” He sent it to his occasional collaborator Kevin Barreto, a second-year undergraduate in mathematics at the University of Cambridge.
Seems like standard 23 year old behavior. You're spending $100-$200/mo on the pro subscription, and want to get your money's worth. So you burn some tokens on this legendarily hard math problem sometimes. You've seen enough wrong answers to know that this one looks interesting and pass it on to a friend that actually knows math, who is at a place where experts can recognize it as correct.
Seems like a classic example of in-expert human labeling ML output.
Re: Amateur armed with ChatGPT solves an Erdős problem
#59Re: Amateur armed with ChatGPT solves an Erdős problem
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think we should at least ask the latter, if it turned out it cost $100,000 to generate this solution, I would question the value of it. Erdős problems are usually pure math curiosities AFAIK. They often have no meaningful practical applications.
Also, it's one thing if the AI age means we all have to adopt to using AI as a tool, another thing entirely if it means the only people who can do useful research are the ones with huge budgets.
Your logic undoes your point, because the kid who "solved" this technically didn't even have to invest in a degree.