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Iran war has drained U.S. supplies of critical, costly weapons

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Post by JojoFatsani »

ericmay wrote: post #27
legitster wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The JCPOA was very effective until Trump cancelled it without any consolations and upped sanctions for no reasons (Iran was cooperating!) The progress of their enrichment program is purely a product of this administration's failed diplomacy. Comparing Iran to North Korea is something someone with no actual understanding of Iran would do. Iran is not a hermit kingdom.

> Comparing Iran to North Korea is something someone with no actual understanding of Iran would do. Iran is not a hermit kingdom. That was your comparison, not mine. My comparison was that once they obtain a nuclear weapon, there's nothing we can do anymore. They can obtain more, and then use them as a threat to tax the Straight, further enriching their regime, &c. That's what has happened to North Korea (minus the s…

We paid them off and American citizens had cheaper gas and a better stock market than they do now

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Post by za3faran »

_DeadFred_ wrote: post #48
za3faran wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We don't even know if that number is correct (the 30k protesters, especially given the heavy mossad invovlement), but let's pretend to care about human life and kill even more. Didn't trump threaten to wipe out an entire civilization?

https://www.nytimes.com/video/opinion/100000010723018/iran-p... Amnesty International https://amnesty.ca/urgent-actions/iran-thousands-of-protest-... United Nations Report https://www.ohchr.org/en/statements-and-speeches/2026/03/sta... From a less reputable source: https://www.newsnationnow.com/world/iranian-nurse-protesters... The regime reported 3000. According to human rights agencies Iran normally reports 10% of…

Except that rape is not permitted by their religion's morality laws. This alone is sufficient to be extremely weary of what is reported by pro US/israel sources.

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Post by tzs »

ericmay wrote: post #34
atmavatar wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Keep in mind that there's only a risk of Iran gaining nuclear weapons in the first place because Trump in his first term reneged on the deal where we had inspectors in Iran to ensure they weren't making them. Random, unprovoked attacks by other countries only underscores Iran's need to build nuclear weapons. Mission accomplished.

This is false because Iran was pursuing a nuclear weapon before Trump ever came into office. the JCPOA was signed under Obama. It wouldn't have existed had Iran not already been pursuing nuclear weapons. Iran can obviously hide nuclear weapons and uranium enrichment activities from the inspectors. Unless of course you believe the US intelligence agency and inspection agencies are capable of perfect intelligence. :) >…

Iran was pursuing nuclear weapons. Many countries put sanctions on them to get them to stop. They made a deal, JCPOA, with the US, China, France, Russia, the UK, Germany, and the EU to stop in exchange for reducing sanctions.

It worked. Even the first Trump administration certified that Iran was upholding their end of the deal.

Then Trump unilaterally cancelled it over the objection of all the other parties and put back the sanctions. Iran resumed pursuing nuclear weapons.

This clearly shows that war is not necessary to get Iran to stop. They were even offering significant concessions in the negotiations just before this war according to a UK advisor who was in attendance, but the US was not actually interested in a diplomatic solution and was just using the negotiations to make Iran think the attack was not imminent.

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Post by fifilura »

Planktonne wrote: post #5

Given what the US has been doing/threatening to do recently, it's hard to see this as a problem.

Those systems could have been used to prevent Russia from trying to annihilate the Ukrainian civilization.

USA is not even paying for it anymore so it would have been pure income.

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

DrProtic wrote: post #49
_DeadFred_ wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.nytimes.com/video/opinion/100000010723018/iran-p... Amnesty International https://amnesty.ca/urgent-actions/iran-thousands-of-protest-... United Nations Report https://www.ohchr.org/en/statements-and-speeches/2026/03/sta... From a less reputable source: https://www.newsnationnow.com/world/iranian-nurse-protesters... The regime admits 3,000. According to human rights group tracking numbers the regime repor…

None of your sources display any kind of evidence whatsoever. Where are videos of police opening fire on protesters? 30K deaths and not a single video circling around? How’s that possible? X-Ray? Really?! All you posted is “report says”. Again, just like “report said” there were WMD.

The regime reports that they killed 3000 people. That police fired on people is not in dispute by either side (other than apparently you). Don't know what else to tell you. Bots sides weren't in agreement in your desperate equivalating with the not equivalent WMD thing. Iran traditionally only confirms 10% of political executions it commits. 30,000 fits with the historical numbers around Iranian murders of their citizens.

Doctors normally take Xrays of patients as part of the medical process. They don't normally take photographs. Not sure why you don't trust xrays? Are you anti-modern medicine/tech as well as anti-secular/pro-Islamic government?

Your requirement for videos out of a despotic regime that has shut the internet down shows you don't really care about the reality.

Keep trying to justify religious murder by an Islamic Republic of people who just want to be free of the rule of Islam and be secular. The Iranian government says they killed 3000 people. That this occurred isn't in dispute.

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

za3faran wrote: post #52
_DeadFred_ wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.nytimes.com/video/opinion/100000010723018/iran-p... Amnesty International https://amnesty.ca/urgent-actions/iran-thousands-of-protest-... United Nations Report https://www.ohchr.org/en/statements-and-speeches/2026/03/sta... From a less reputable source: https://www.newsnationnow.com/world/iranian-nurse-protesters... The regime reported 3000. According to human rights agencies Iran normally reports 10% of…

Except that rape is not permitted by their religion's morality laws. This alone is sufficient to be extremely weary of what is reported by pro US/israel sources.

Iran has political discussion of if they need to rape women before they execute them, with the religious man that Iranians attribute that religious directive to having to make MULTIPLE public statements that he was not calling for women to be raped so that government officials would stop using him as justification to rape.

The founder of islam had multiple sex slaves taken from lands that he conquered by war. Excuse me if I think the religion isn't above rape. That would be like saying mormons don't take advantage of people in MLMs because their religion forbids them from taking advantage of people. Or anything about scientology's requirements of it's followers. It has zero weight. Actions do. The founder and most perfect man in islam raped women openly, was a rapist, his voice on the topic has zero weight to the contrary.

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

DrProtic wrote: post #50
_DeadFred_ wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.nytimes.com/video/opinion/100000010723018/iran-p... Amnesty International https://amnesty.ca/urgent-actions/iran-thousands-of-protest-... United Nations Report https://www.ohchr.org/en/statements-and-speeches/2026/03/sta... From a less reputable source: https://www.newsnationnow.com/world/iranian-nurse-protesters... The regime reported 3000. According to human rights agencies Iran normally reports 10% of…

I’m sure destroying their civilization will help them a lot.

The Islamic Republic of Iran has called for and acted towards/funded the destruction of the American people, my civilization, my family, for the last 40+ years, held mass protests of hate towards us continually. Boo hoo that rhetoric towards them from my side came close to the very much not rhetoric but moral/religious position they have vocally held, marched in support of, taught their children in school for 40+ years. The Islamic Republic of Iran has a government built billboard in their capital with a countdown to their desired destruction of another nation as well. Give me a break with the one sided moral outrage.

Iran/Iranians want me, my parents, my children dead. They have shouted this loudly for 40+ years. I grew up afraid of Islam, seeing the head of a religion and also leader of a nation that hated me calling for my and my families deaths. The head of a religion calling for the execution of people like Rushdie, simply for writing a book. I on the other hand just want Iranians to not be raped/murdered for their choice in hats. I have never seen/attended a rally that chanted 'death to Iran'. A huge part of my country's last election was talk on 'Americans don't want war with Iran'. Has ANY government approved Iranian moderate ran on 'we don't want death to America'?

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Post by isolay »

josefritzishere wrote: post #29

This is sort of a subtitle under the headline of unprovoked brutality and naked incompetence that brought us here.

Incompetence only if viewed from a citizen's perspective. From the perspective of the kleptocrats, it's working as intended. They couldn't care less if the country or the whole world goes to shit as long as they make a profit.
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