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UK Biobank leak: Health details of 500k people offered for sale on Alibaba

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Palantir develops database software.

“Palantir is here to disrupt and make the institutions we partner with the very best in the world and, when it’s necessary, to scare enemies and on occasion kill them,” Karp said, with a smile on his face. The CEO added that he was very proud of the work his firm is doing and that he felt it was good for America. “I’m very happy to have you along for the journey,” he said. “We are crushing it. We are dedicating our c…

Yes, that’s a bunch of bluster about database software.

Re: UK Biobank leak: Health details of 500k people offered for sale on Alibaba

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post #28

In fairness, is this any worse than what Palantir will do with the whole countries NHS records? And they're being paid by the government to do it!

Is allowing random malicious actors to buy health data worse than allowing NHS's own employees to interact with that data productively? yes

The NHS does it so badly that they brought in Palantir.

Re: UK Biobank leak: Health details of 500k people offered for sale on Alibaba

#53
post #28

In fairness, is this any worse than what Palantir will do with the whole countries NHS records? And they're being paid by the government to do it!

> In fairness, is this any worse than what Palantir will do with the whole countries NHS records? I don’t get this trend of seeing bad thing happen and then commenting that other bad thing exists and therefore “in fairness” we should downplay it. Bad things are bad. Comparing them to other things we don’t like doesn’t make them less bad. I don’t like Palantir either but they’re not intentionally leaking health detail…

> they’re not intentionally leaking health details

To many, they are. They're leaking information that has been trusted to the NHS to their own databases.

The fact that it's being done under government contract and (arguably) within the law shouldn't immediately make it any less bad.

Re: UK Biobank leak: Health details of 500k people offered for sale on Alibaba

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post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Palantir is here to disrupt and make the institutions we partner with the very best in the world and, when it’s necessary, to scare enemies and on occasion kill them,” Karp said, with a smile on his face. The CEO added that he was very proud of the work his firm is doing and that he felt it was good for America. “I’m very happy to have you along for the journey,” he said. “We are crushing it. We are dedicating our c…

Yes, that’s a bunch of bluster about database software.

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Re: UK Biobank leak: Health details of 500k people offered for sale on Alibaba

#55
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Palantir is here to disrupt and make the institutions we partner with the very best in the world and, when it’s necessary, to scare enemies and on occasion kill them,” Karp said, with a smile on his face. The CEO added that he was very proud of the work his firm is doing and that he felt it was good for America. “I’m very happy to have you along for the journey,” he said. “We are crushing it. We are dedicating our c…

Yes, that’s a bunch of bluster about database software.

No, Palantir is not a "database vendor", it's an intelligence company closely working with IOF in their ongoing genocidal efforts and with DHS with mass deportations.

I'd rather see Oracle than a ghoul openly supporting targeting civilians.

Re: UK Biobank leak: Health details of 500k people offered for sale on Alibaba

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There isn't much difference between giving this data to 20,000 researchers all over the world and simply publishing the data on the web. I personally would like data like this to simply be published, together with a law that says using the data to make personalized decisions affecting those individuals is punishable with life in prison. Basically, this data is 'opensource', but not for use to decide insurance premium…

“We didn’t make a decision based on that.” Done and dusted?

or it's made the onus for the proof that the data wasn't used, so if your decision didn't come with a proof it wasn't, the party making the decision can be sued for it.

Like a clean room implementation requirement.

Re: UK Biobank leak: Health details of 500k people offered for sale on Alibaba

#58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is allowing random malicious actors to buy health data worse than allowing NHS's own employees to interact with that data productively? yes

The NHS does it so badly that they brought in Palantir.

... which provides software to help NHS personnel utilize their own data...

Re: UK Biobank leak: Health details of 500k people offered for sale on Alibaba

#59

There isn't much difference between giving this data to 20,000 researchers all over the world and simply publishing the data on the web. I personally would like data like this to simply be published, together with a law that says using the data to make personalized decisions affecting those individuals is punishable with life in prison. Basically, this data is 'opensource', but not for use to decide insurance premium…

> There isn't much difference between giving this data to 20,000 researchers all over the world and simply publishing the data on the web. As a researcher who regularly deals with such data there is a MASSIVE difference. Yes, I have access to the data but I am restricted on how it can be stored (no cloud), what I can and can't do with it, and for some of it I'm even mandated to destroy it once the research project is…

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Re: UK Biobank leak: Health details of 500k people offered for sale on Alibaba

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post #39
post #28

In fairness, is this any worse than what Palantir will do with the whole countries NHS records? And they're being paid by the government to do it!

Palantir develops database software.

… As part of an explicit, openly stated mission to reshape the global political order.

Palantir is indeed in many ways just a software vendor but we shouldn’t downplay that they have a much more explicit agenda than most other companies do in seeking government contracts.

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