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Using the internet like it's 1999

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Re: Using the internet like it's 1999

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Just go to fark.com, a lingering glimmer of light from before the dead web. They are still aggregating human curated news and hosting reasonably civil discussions. Then buy a Totalfark subscription so they don't need to bend over backwards to show more ads just to keep the lights on. See ya there!

Fark is farking great! Though its old-school HTML doesn't flow so well on mobile. Can we get the best of 1999 with the best of 2026? Probably not...

m.fark.com looks pretty good on my phone.

Re: Using the internet like it's 1999

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post #4

If it were 1999, most people would still be browsing the web on their US Robotics 56k modem (at best). This page is about 1 MB of assets (500kb gzip compressed if your browser supported it) , so it would have taken at least a minute just to finish loading.

Still pretty prevalent at that time, definitely, but DSL was definitely a thing by the time 1999 rolled around. I even had pretty fast DSL for the time -- 640 kbps. But otherwise totally agree with the critique. Modern connection speeds have enabled a huge amount of bloat. I grew up when 1200 baud modems were the latest rage, and patience when downloading was a hard requirement.

I lived in rural North Dakota and had dial up until 2005. It really sucked the last couple of years.

Re: Using the internet like it's 1999

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Some sites were fast. Some sites had pictures and it took long enough to load that I would sometimes make a sandwich while waiting.

I literally remember watching images load line by line. I know nostalgia for the old days is de rigueur especially on HN but I definitely do not want to go back to that.

I told a coworker born in 2001 about this and he could not believe his ears

Re: Using the internet like it's 1999

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post #4

If it were 1999, most people would still be browsing the web on their US Robotics 56k modem (at best). This page is about 1 MB of assets (500kb gzip compressed if your browser supported it) , so it would have taken at least a minute just to finish loading.

"This page is about 1 MB of assets".

And it could easily have been 10 KB.

Re: Using the internet like it's 1999

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I got my first cable modem in 1998! All sites were still built for dialup, so everything was incredibly fast.

Nice! We were one of the first families on the block to have a 33.6 kbps modem, and were the envy of every filthy peasant who still had a 28.8 back in the day.

My first dialup modem was 1200 baud, back in 1987! I remember it taking an hour to download a game from a local warez BBS. My first modem to establish an Internet connection (SLIP) was 9600, sometime around 1993! Time flies...

Re: Using the internet like it's 1999

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Closer to 2 as it was rarelly running at full 56kb/s. Although, being patient was part of the experience as well

I was a lot more careful about clicking things when it took a full minute to load. Now I know that it'll be open in less than a second and I can leave immediately if I need to, so there's WAY less thinking beforehand.

There are quite a few sites that take more than a second to load even now. Should be a war crime, but alas

Re: Using the internet like it's 1999

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I was a lot more careful about clicking things when it took a full minute to load. Now I know that it'll be open in less than a second and I can leave immediately if I need to, so there's WAY less thinking beforehand.

When I found my first tabbed browser. Netcaptor. It changed everything. Open in new tab. Open in new tab. Open in new tab. Go back to the first tab which has finally finished loading. Consume.

It's funny to think back, as I've just recently installed a browser extension to do the opposite (i.e. to prevent "open in new tab" tabs from doing any work until I foreground them.)

Today, my computer's memory is far more constrained than its network bandwidth. I find it very easy to accidentally open tons of tabs very quickly (esp. from the HN front page!) until suddenly the browser is swapping and everything's slowing to a crawl trying to process all those new page DOMs.

And yet, even when it doesn't choke the computer, I find no real benefit to preloading pages in the background any more. At least on my connection, the page load time after I focus a tab is almost imperceptible.

How things have changed!

Re: Using the internet like it's 1999

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This is going to come off glib, but I don't think you can believe any of this having actually used the Internet of 1999. As is so often the case, there are lots of real annoyances and offenses behind the sentiment, but still, the Internet of 2026 is vastly better than that of 1999. The amount of things you're just one quick search away from right now would break the brains of a 1999 netizen. We were still required to buy paper books for all sorts of routine knowledge work tasks.

Re: Using the internet like it's 1999

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If it were 1999, most people would still be browsing the web on their US Robotics 56k modem (at best). This page is about 1 MB of assets (500kb gzip compressed if your browser supported it) , so it would have taken at least a minute just to finish loading.

"This page is about 1 MB of assets". And it could easily have been 10 KB.

Now now. Don't be so tightfisted with the bandwidth. You know what they say, "People will hate you Steve, if you're too sting-ee!"

https://www.audioatrocities.com/games/lastalert/index.html

Re: Using the internet like it's 1999

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I literally remember watching images load line by line. I know nostalgia for the old days is de rigueur especially on HN but I definitely do not want to go back to that.

I told a coworker born in 2001 about this and he could not believe his ears

We dither on the shoulders of giants.
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