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Southern Poverty Law Center indicted for fraud, money laundering

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Re: Southern Poverty Law Center indicted for fraud, money laundering

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Post by rationalist »

defrost wrote: post #38
rationalist wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then either they shouldn't be laundering money, or we should repeal that law.

Tangential to the deeper and more problematic issue with the recent DoJ, repeated malicious prosecutions at a scale not seen before.

I don't like malicious prosecutions.

And nothing prevents the other side once the pendulum swings back in the other direction, from doing the same as long as there are enough laws on the books that this is true:

"Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime."

Re: Southern Poverty Law Center indicted for fraud, money laundering

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

rationalist wrote: post #22
defrost wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> what kind of mindless ideologue thinks this was just a whim for giggles? Likely not a single one - it's been starkly clear for more than a year that the current US Federal DoJ is being wielded not on a whim for shits and giggles but for revenge and manipulation.

Then either they shouldn't be laundering money, or we should repeal that law.

I mean, yeah maybe. The other hand put yourself in their position. I mean me alone… the number of times I’ve woken up and found myself committing wire fraud and money laundering in order to pay KKK and neo Nazi groups is like geez, Tuesday already?

Re: Southern Poverty Law Center indicted for fraud, money laundering

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

TimK65 wrote: post #43

https://www.lawdork.com/p/splc-indictment-united-klans-of-am...

No one, literally no one has said the issue is with paying KKK and neo Nazi group for “information”.

The issue the DOJ has seems to be the alleged money laundering, wire fraud, and conspiracy to commit fraud.

Re: Southern Poverty Law Center indicted for fraud, money laundering

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

xrd wrote: post #5

SPLC activities: "...including filing litigation on voting rights and prisoner rights." I can imagine these actions would be inconvenient for the Trump administration.

I imagine if they were committing fraud, that indeed would be convenient for the Trump Admin… it is also entirely unrelated if the fraud has taken place.

Re: Southern Poverty Law Center indicted for fraud, money laundering

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

fuckinpuppers wrote: post #46
jauntywundrkind wrote: post #34

I guess we might see as the case actually starts up, but I tend towards this basic posture: > Infiltrating hate groups with informants is something that goes way back to the civil rights era and before. It's never been something only the government can do, especially when the government is more likely to be showing up for the white power happy hour every third Thursday at Chili's. https://bsky.app/profile/andycraig.b…

Yes this is lawfare. They paid people to infiltrate. That’s exactly what going undercover is, and we don’t have any problems with that. This is them applying a bias against an institution they don’t like by framing it as fraud and abuse (while they ransack the country at levels 100x larger)

The issue is not paying people to infiltrate it is the fraud and money laundering. Did you read the indictment?

Re: Southern Poverty Law Center indicted for fraud, money laundering

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Post by enoint »

xrd wrote: post #5

SPLC activities: "...including filing litigation on voting rights and prisoner rights." I can imagine these actions would be inconvenient for the Trump administration.

I predict that a settlement includes the following demands:

SPLC destroy all information it has about the Fred Trump lawsuit. Especially the records of Fred Trump arrested for punching a cop during a KKK rally in Queens.

Proud Boys, Oath Keepers etc. removed from the database as Jan 6 is rewritten.

And the grand jury testimony likely includes discussion about why SPLC shell companies are fraud but other shell companies are respectable. I predict this testimony was immediately sealed.

Re: Southern Poverty Law Center indicted for fraud, money laundering

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Post by jauntywundrkind »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #55
fuckinpuppers wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes this is lawfare. They paid people to infiltrate. That’s exactly what going undercover is, and we don’t have any problems with that. This is them applying a bias against an institution they don’t like by framing it as fraud and abuse (while they ransack the country at levels 100x larger)

The issue is not paying people to infiltrate it is the fraud and money laundering. Did you read the indictment?

It's from a bunch of useless known liars saying very little of substance & making lots of hot air. It's pretty unclear what the accusation really isal, amid all the grandstanding.

It sort of seems like they are saying: the SPLC didn't make it crystal clear what your money was going to and who we were paying, when. Some of it went to bad people. This is fraud.

On the contrary, I think many of the people funding SPLC are very happy about where there money is going. And it's clear why the SPLC can't tell you where exactly the money is going. Their work is so well known that the FBI has been (until the deplorables) paying them to do exactly this!

These people been and twist reality while saying nothing, while only obfuscating the truth. This case is the fraud.

Re: Southern Poverty Law Center indicted for fraud, money laundering

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

jauntywundrkind wrote: post #59
SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue is not paying people to infiltrate it is the fraud and money laundering. Did you read the indictment?

It's from a bunch of useless known liars saying very little of substance & making lots of hot air. It's pretty unclear what the accusation really isal, amid all the grandstanding. It sort of seems like they are saying: the SPLC didn't make it crystal clear what your money was going to and who we were paying, when. Some of it went to bad people. This is fraud. On the contrary, I think many of the people funding SPLC a…

Ok. 11 indictments in federal court for the hard crimes that typically require physical evidence of money, laundering, and wire fraud… yes that’s probably just from a bunch of use known liars, saying a little of substance.

So I guess that’s an answer that no you did not read the indictment?

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