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Re: FIM – Linux framebuffer image viewer

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Post by mghackerlady »

mnkylikeskbd wrote: post #3

Related to this are the (rather poorly named ) kitty terminals graphics protocol: https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/graphics-protocol/ Yeah it is playful and all, but telling your colleagues to use "kitty" doesn't sound very professional. You might disagree with this, but that doesn't change the overall perception and general take in corporate world.

I like it, it's a pun and a cool animal. GNU has a rather silly name (a gnu is an animal and GNU is an acronym for GNUs Not Unix) but it's done just fine

Re: FIM – Linux framebuffer image viewer

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Post by moritonal »

hagbard_c wrote: post #36
moritonal wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're right my comment was off the cuff but I stand by it's logic. I didn't say Kovid was a terrible person, just not great. Having not done research into him specifically I just noted with the parent that certain qualities such as supposed abrasiveness often overlap with qualities I dislike, like using the Lenna image. My point is that using the Lenna image is a signal, just as you rightly point out so is my commen…

Using the 'Lena' image is only a signal for those who want to signal something. For most people it is just the standard graphic to use when presenting image processing software. There has been a movement to ban the image but that movement is most likely not nearly so widespread as some people seem to think it is. It wholly depends on which 'bubble' you are in whether using that image is a deadly sin or just daily rou…

I want to point out some of the language you've used. You've brought up "current narrative", "crusade", "sin" and "inquisition", when really you seem to be saying "the image doesn't signal anything and the push to remove it is overblown". I disagree with you (for example IEEE has banned it) but I do respect you believe the actual movement that disagrees with is small but influential.

Instead however I would ask you look at the words you used, where they came from, who said them to you, and why you brought them up here. They are strangely charged words for a debate over a picture.

Re: FIM – Linux framebuffer image viewer

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Post by chiffaa »

mnkylikeskbd wrote: post #3

Related to this are the (rather poorly named ) kitty terminals graphics protocol: https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/graphics-protocol/ Yeah it is playful and all, but telling your colleagues to use "kitty" doesn't sound very professional. You might disagree with this, but that doesn't change the overall perception and general take in corporate world.

A lot of software projects have names ranging from silly associations to very cheesy puns, and IMO this should never discourage anyone - everyone should have some whimsy when naming things, because it makes names more memorable. After all, people use Python, and name doesn't even refer to snakes!

I personally wouldn't be able to remember "kitty" if it was named "featureful-python-terminal-emulator", and I certainly wouldn't want to recommend it to others under this name

Re: FIM – Linux framebuffer image viewer

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Post by capitainenemo »

antisol wrote: post #34
capitainenemo wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

export SDL_VIDEODRIVER=caca is more usable for games

Oh nice! How did I not know it works with caca?!

Works pretty well even. I wish there was a libchafa variant, and ideally for SDL2.

I've even played SC2, The Ur-Quan masters fairly successfully in an ssh session that way. And Frozen Bubble.

Re: FIM – Linux framebuffer image viewer

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Post by moritonal »

prmoustache wrote: post #42
moritonal wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're right my comment was off the cuff but I stand by it's logic. I didn't say Kovid was a terrible person, just not great. Having not done research into him specifically I just noted with the parent that certain qualities such as supposed abrasiveness often overlap with qualities I dislike, like using the Lenna image. My point is that using the Lenna image is a signal, just as you rightly point out so is my commen…

> using a Playboy image In all honesty, until I read about that I couldn't have imagined the original was a playboy image. What is really used and we see online is a cropped portrait of a playboy image. I am not even sure that playboy image may have been pornographic. Nudity != porn. What is sure is that cropped portrait is not in any way pornographic. So I kind of have difficulties on drawing opinions about that. Su…

Personally I consider the crop part of the problem. By cropping (rather than just picking another image) it "cleans" the image, but retains the context. I could crop many images to be valid as test-images, but people who know the context would still see them for what they are. Lenna represents a time when the highest quality magazine at hand in a laboratory was softcore pornography.

Re: FIM – Linux framebuffer image viewer

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Post by dirasieb »

gbin wrote: post #15
opan wrote: post #9

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The name "kitty" is nothing compared to the attitude and crimes of the dev (destroying bitmap support and telling people to buy new monitors). I will never use, support, or recommend kitty.

A crime?! Please people I don't even know what happened here but removing some bitmap support is a crime now for a maintainer of an open source piece of code? You are not happy with the project then where is your fork so we can assign some crimes to you and get out of our way to not recommend it? (Note: I am not affiliated at all with the project and I don't even know what happened but you really need to take a breat…

hyperbole exists

Re: FIM – Linux framebuffer image viewer

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Post by akdev1l »

zamadatix wrote: post #49
hkt wrote: post #10

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This is a great tip, do you have others? I've tried to ditch graphical desktop envs and failed pretty miserably on media consumption and browsing before.

I messed with this a bit and found fbdev forces even gpu accelerated video decode or rendered apps (e.g. even terminal text these days) to go through the CPU/RAM copy path whereas a lightweight graphical setup (like a minimal sway with a full screen terminal window open) is zero copy. Minor thing, but I'll gladly trade a little RAM for some battery life + simplicity if I ever do need to open something actually graphi…

If you wanted a minimal terminal with graphical support then you should probably just run a minimal Wayland session with cage + terminal emulator

fbdev is not it, going through the DRM subsystem is much better

Re: FIM – Linux framebuffer image viewer

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Post by joquarky »

moritonal wrote: post #53
hagbard_c wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Using the 'Lena' image is only a signal for those who want to signal something. For most people it is just the standard graphic to use when presenting image processing software. There has been a movement to ban the image but that movement is most likely not nearly so widespread as some people seem to think it is. It wholly depends on which 'bubble' you are in whether using that image is a deadly sin or just daily rou…

I want to point out some of the language you've used. You've brought up "current narrative", "crusade", "sin" and "inquisition", when really you seem to be saying "the image doesn't signal anything and the push to remove it is overblown". I disagree with you (for example IEEE has banned it) but I do respect you believe the actual movement that disagrees with is small but influential. Instead however I would ask you l…

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