Constraints can lead to innovation. Just two things that I think will get dramatically better now that companies have incentive to focus on them: * harness design * small models (both local and not) I think there is tremendous low hanging fruit in both areas still.
What do you mean by harness here?
The beginning of scarcity in AI
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Re: The beginning of scarcity in AI
#52It's artificial scarcity. LLM inference will soon be commodity as cloud. There is a 2-3years still before ASIC LLM inferences will catch up.
I don't think so. GB200 prices are GOING UP. A100s are still expensive. This implies massive utilization and demand, no? These machines are not sitting idle, or prices would drop in the very competitive hyperscaler environment.
Its like being back in 1850 and you build the world's first amusement park where the rides are free or very cheap. People are like Amusement parks are the next big thing since Steam Boats! And tons of other rich people start to build huge amusement parks everywhere. The people who are skilled at making amusement park rides will increase their prices, and since the first amusement parks are free so they can get the public going to them demand will be huge.
But how sustainable is that? - well obviously we know from history that amusement parks did, in fact, take over the world and most people spent virtually all their time and money at amusement parks - I think the Crimean War was even fought over some religious-based theme park in Israel - until moving pictures came out, so it worked out for them, but for AI?
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There is a major logic flaw in what you're saying. 'If I am a grocery store that pays $1 for oranges and sells them for $0.50, I can't say, "I don't have enough oranges."' How about 'if I'm a grocery store and I see no limit on demand for oranges at $.50 but they are currently $1, I can say 'if oranges were cheaper I could sell orders of magnitude more of them'. Buying oranges for $1 and selling for $0.5 is an invest…
> acquiring market share and customer relationships The whole setup rests on this, and it seems mythical to me. These guys have basically equivalent products at this point.
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What do you mean by harness here?
When you go to the command line and type “Claude”, there is an LLM, and everything else is the harness
> Users should re-tune their prompts and harnesses accordingly.
I read this in the press release and my mind thought it meant test harness. Then there was a blog post about long running harnesses with a section about testing which lead me to a little more confusion.
Yes, the word 'harness' is consistently used in the context as a wrapper around the LLM model not as 'test harness'.
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#56(note: I don't expect this to actually happen until the AI gets good enough to either nearly entirely replace humans or solve cooperation, but the long term trend of scarce AI will go towards that direction)
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I've seen this claimed, but I'm not sure it's been true for my use cases? I should try a more involved analysis but so far open models seem much less even in their skills. I think this makes sense if a lot of them are built based on distillations of larger models. It seems likely that with task specific fine tuning this is true?
What are you trying to do? Write code? No. Use frontier models. They are subsidized and amazing and they get noticably better ever few months. Literally anything else? Smaller models are fine. Classifiers, sentiment analysis, editing blog posts, tool calling, whatever. They go can through documents and extract information, summarize, etc. When making a voice chat system awhile back I used a cheap open weight model an…
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I'd be fine with a world without AI, honestly. Nobody really wins this race except the very wealthy. And I don't think it's really going to play out the way the wealthy think it will. It's more like a dog catching a car than it is a race.
> It's more like a dog catching a car than it is a race. What does this mean? I didn't understand the analogy.
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What are you trying to do? Write code? No. Use frontier models. They are subsidized and amazing and they get noticably better ever few months. Literally anything else? Smaller models are fine. Classifiers, sentiment analysis, editing blog posts, tool calling, whatever. They go can through documents and extract information, summarize, etc. When making a voice chat system awhile back I used a cheap open weight model an…
I just mean is the claim that the open source models where the closed models were 12 to 6 months ago true? They do seem to be for some specific tasks which is cool, but they seem even more uneven in skills than the frontier model. They're definitely useful tools, but I'm not sure if they're a match for frontier models from a year ago?
Open weight models have those same issues. They are otherwise fine.
You can hook them up to a vector DB and build a RAG system. They can answer simple questions and converse back and forth. They have thinking modes that solve more complex problems.
They aren't going to discover new math theorems but they'll control a smart home and manage your calendar.
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#60It seems very possible that we have at least five years of real limitations on compute coming up. Maybe ten, depending on ASML. I wonder what an overshoot looks like. I also wonder if there might be room for new entrants in a compute-scarce environment. For instance, at some point, could Coreweave field a frontier team as it holds back 10% of its allocations over time? Pretty unusual situation.
Jensen just said that if the signal/commitments are there, ASML can scale in 2-3 years.