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Does Gas Town 'steal' usage from users' LLM credits to improve itself?

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Re: Does Gas Town 'steal' usage from users' LLM credits to improve itself?

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Is anyone surprised? I'm reminded of how I felt during the NFT craze. LLMs are extremely powerful when used with deliberate care. Gas Town is the exact opposite of what is needed to actually do useful things in prod. I guess good on Steve for doing what he does so well, and getting so much hype around a vibe coded mess.

this is why transparency matters with anything that touches cloud AI. if your routing user prompts through any API, users should know exactly whats being sent, where it goes, and whether it gets stored or used for training. Burying that in terms of service isnt good enough

No, users should demand it.

For open source you get what you get and you don’t get upset. Has anyone ever sued an open source project?

Re: Does Gas Town 'steal' usage from users' LLM credits to improve itself?

#54
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It seems completely in the spirit of Gas Town. A respectable software provider should warn you about this kind of behaviour at install time, and give you the opportunity to opt out. Gas Town fulfilled all its obligations in this regard with these (and other) warnings in the original announcement: > WARNING DANGER CAUTION > GET THE F** OUT > YOU WILL DIE

Coming soon: JavaScript embeds on bloated websites that mine cryptocurrency on viewers' WebGPUs.

Accidentally leave a browser tab open and it burns $5 of your electricity overnight to make $2 for the owner of the website.

Re: Does Gas Town 'steal' usage from users' LLM credits to improve itself?

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post #54
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It seems completely in the spirit of Gas Town. A respectable software provider should warn you about this kind of behaviour at install time, and give you the opportunity to opt out. Gas Town fulfilled all its obligations in this regard with these (and other) warnings in the original announcement: > WARNING DANGER CAUTION > GET THE F** OUT > YOU WILL DIE

Coming soon: JavaScript embeds on bloated websites that mine cryptocurrency on viewers' WebGPUs. Accidentally leave a browser tab open and it burns $5 of your electricity overnight to make $2 for the owner of the website.

That's not coming soon, that is a thing that was happening on compromised servers years ago (and probably still, but to a lesser extent given the decline in popularity of meme coin launches)

Re: Does Gas Town 'steal' usage from users' LLM credits to improve itself?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I guess good on Steve for doing what he does so well, and getting so much hype around a vibe coded mess. Shit coin aside, I don't get the hate for Gastown, we all know its theoretically plausible and he's giving it a shot. We get value either way, either we learn its not just theory or we get to watch it burn in the flames of a legal/financial/security/maintenance nightmare for its practitioners.

You are saying: by virtue of the value of creation, anything that is created cannot have negative effects.

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Re: Does Gas Town 'steal' usage from users' LLM credits to improve itself?

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post #54
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It seems completely in the spirit of Gas Town. A respectable software provider should warn you about this kind of behaviour at install time, and give you the opportunity to opt out. Gas Town fulfilled all its obligations in this regard with these (and other) warnings in the original announcement: > WARNING DANGER CAUTION > GET THE F** OUT > YOU WILL DIE

Coming soon: JavaScript embeds on bloated websites that mine cryptocurrency on viewers' WebGPUs. Accidentally leave a browser tab open and it burns $5 of your electricity overnight to make $2 for the owner of the website.

Already been done, albeit without the webgpu part. I think some browsers already block crypto miners

It's a shame in a way, it also blocked the pseudo-captchas that used mining to limit spam.

Re: Does Gas Town 'steal' usage from users' LLM credits to improve itself?

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It seems completely in the spirit of Gas Town. A respectable software provider should warn you about this kind of behaviour at install time, and give you the opportunity to opt out. Gas Town fulfilled all its obligations in this regard with these (and other) warnings in the original announcement: > WARNING DANGER CAUTION > GET THE F** OUT > YOU WILL DIE

So it's perfectly fine to ship a bitcoin miner in software, as long as you say:

> WARNING DANGER CAUTION > GET THE F* OUT > YOU WILL DIE

You cannot be serious...This behaviour is deeply unethical and most likely illegal as well.

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