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Fixing a 20-year-old bug in Enlightenment E16

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Re: Fixing a 20-year-old bug in Enlightenment E16

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Post by shakow »

pjc50 wrote: post #31
pjmlp wrote: post #9

Oh, people are still using Enlightenment. My last time I used it was still in the 1990's, before I settled into Afterstep and soon afterwards Windowmaker. In what concerns my use of GNU/Linux, it was CDE on others. Apparently nothing big came out of Enlightenment and Tizen.

I was also a huge fan of WindowMaker. Simple, effective, stylish without getting in the way. Also allowed me to have a vertical taskbar, which I stuck with even on Windows until Win11 has taken that from me - because Mac is the arbiter of taste and everyone must copy it.

MacOS definitely lets you put the dock wherever you prefer.

Re: Fixing a 20-year-old bug in Enlightenment E16

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Post by angled »

dspillett wrote: post #27
angled wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still remember how cool I thought raster was with his vaio and everything. This was the future! Transparent eterms and tasteful backgrounds everywhere.

> tasteful backgrounds everywhere. Certainly not everywhere. I definitely remember plenty of tasteless ones, some deliberately so and others just cases of other people's taste differing from mine!

This was the era of !hurl, after all …

Re: Fixing a 20-year-old bug in Enlightenment E16

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Post by jimjimjim »

sneak wrote: post #37
angled wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still remember how cool I thought raster was with his vaio and everything. This was the future! Transparent eterms and tasteful backgrounds everywhere.

it’s not a valid enlightenment screenshot without a digital blasphemy wallpaper. (digital blasphemy is still around and still selling art.)

Yes! Thank you. That’s a blast from the past

Re: Fixing a 20-year-old bug in Enlightenment E16

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Post by PunchyHamster »

exitb wrote: post #44

It's such an underrated advantage of open source operating systems that if you like some bit of software, you'll likely be able to use it for decades to come. Even a core bit of software like a window manager. I grew to hate how you need to conform to someone's whim at Apple or Microsoft, or else you get locked out of new features.

Well, unless you decided to use GNOME, then you get rugpulled by a bunch of people that think they know better than user what user wants and actively ignore any feedback

Re: Fixing a 20-year-old bug in Enlightenment E16

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Post by pino83 »

wvh wrote: post #19

This is a flash from an almost forgotten past. I'm happy people are still using and even improving Enlightenment. I used to run Enlightenment in the late nineties and early 2000s, first by itself, then with Gnome bar. At some point Gnome turned hostile on power users and I switched to KDE, leaving also Enlightenment behind, as well as any extensive customization of my desktop. At that time, the ubiquitous themes.org…

Wasn't Enlightenment something that just looked good in screenshots (compared to Win XP or even earlier ones)? I love desktop environments that look nice, I love effects and animations, if done well, and I love to be able to customize things (KDE/Plasma is doing a really good job in that regard imho). But Enlighenment? Whenever some screenshots excited me, I gave it another try for some hours, and then went back to KDE or Gnome.

It's what you call "ricing" today? You need it for some nice screenshots (or screencasts nowadays), you post them, and then you log off and use something else (i.e. the smartphone, the gaming console, Windows, KDE/Gnome, ...) because that just actually works.

Re: Fixing a 20-year-old bug in Enlightenment E16

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Post by nobleach »

pjmlp wrote: post #9

Oh, people are still using Enlightenment. My last time I used it was still in the 1990's, before I settled into Afterstep and soon afterwards Windowmaker. In what concerns my use of GNU/Linux, it was CDE on others. Apparently nothing big came out of Enlightenment and Tizen.

I still install it and play with it for a bit every other year. I really appreciate that it's held true to its own core. Yes it works with Wayland now, but it's still using its e-foundation libraries. I still wish I had screenshots of my desktop from 1998/1999. Downloading cool software from Freshmeat, hitting up Slashdot (news for nerds... stuff that matters) to see what was going on. Kinda wish I was into IRC back then but I was more of an ICQ->AIM chatter. It's an era I wish we could have back.

Re: Fixing a 20-year-old bug in Enlightenment E16

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Post by mackman »

pino83 wrote: post #55
wvh wrote: post #19

This is a flash from an almost forgotten past. I'm happy people are still using and even improving Enlightenment. I used to run Enlightenment in the late nineties and early 2000s, first by itself, then with Gnome bar. At some point Gnome turned hostile on power users and I switched to KDE, leaving also Enlightenment behind, as well as any extensive customization of my desktop. At that time, the ubiquitous themes.org…

Wasn't Enlightenment something that just looked good in screenshots (compared to Win XP or even earlier ones)? I love desktop environments that look nice, I love effects and animations, if done well, and I love to be able to customize things (KDE/Plasma is doing a really good job in that regard imho). But Enlighenment? Whenever some screenshots excited me, I gave it another try for some hours, and then went back to K…

E13 was a great, simple, good looking WM I used for years. Eventually moved to Fluxbox then back to macOS when it went Unixy.

Re: Fixing a 20-year-old bug in Enlightenment E16

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Post by madaxe_again »

malux85 wrote: post #47
madaxe_again wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SuSE 5.1 for me, as it was what I could easily get the CD-ROMs for, as bandwidth was just a single 64k ISDN at school.

Yeah that was the reason for me too, in order to get the distro CD ROMS I had to mail $10 to some random address and wait 4 weeks for them to be mailed back!

I tell people you used to have to post a cheque when you bought stuff online and they just look at me like I’m nuts. It was basically just mail order, but on the web.

Re: Fixing a 20-year-old bug in Enlightenment E16

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Post by cdmckay »

PunchyHamster wrote: post #54
exitb wrote: post #44

It's such an underrated advantage of open source operating systems that if you like some bit of software, you'll likely be able to use it for decades to come. Even a core bit of software like a window manager. I grew to hate how you need to conform to someone's whim at Apple or Microsoft, or else you get locked out of new features.

Well, unless you decided to use GNOME, then you get rugpulled by a bunch of people that think they know better than user what user wants and actively ignore any feedback

You can always fork it if you don’t like the choices they make

That’s the point the OP is trying to make about the advantage of open source

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