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Fuck the cloud (2009)

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Re: Fuck the cloud (2009)

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The irony of this is hilarious

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Re: Fuck the cloud (2009)

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Neither would be fucked if they were open source. Or if they had a ton of viable competition.

Is not most cloud tech based on open-source? Without Linux I feel like we would have seen cloud take off 20 years later than it did.

Please show me the open source AWS.

It's an encrustified open source offering where the original vendors aren't compensated. Where there's lock in, proprietary offering creep, and highway robbery billing.

Re: Fuck the cloud (2009)

#53

I echo similar sentiments. It is high time to choose self-hosting over handing over essentials to the cloud. You don't know when it could be inaccessible due to plethora of reasons. It is just that, every time I looked into setting up a home lab, it feels cost prohibitively expensive.

> home lab Well that's your problem right there. The home labber setups are for experimentation or "hot rodding" purposes and they typically way overbuild their solutions. What most people need is an old desktop in a corner somewhere (preferably close to your router so you can get to it with an ethernet cable). It's won't be Grandma proof, but if you're remotely technical you can write a docker compose file that glue…

What makes it grandma proof is software that makes it extremely simple, which is like a home appliance, which is within the realm of possibility.

The simpler way to go on most fronts is some form of Proxmox with things like the above managed, it takes care of much of the overhead and doubt on it's own or through a reasonably point and click interface, which could be pre-configured.

Re: Fuck the cloud (2009)

#56

I echo similar sentiments. It is high time to choose self-hosting over handing over essentials to the cloud. You don't know when it could be inaccessible due to plethora of reasons. It is just that, every time I looked into setting up a home lab, it feels cost prohibitively expensive.

> home lab Well that's your problem right there. The home labber setups are for experimentation or "hot rodding" purposes and they typically way overbuild their solutions. What most people need is an old desktop in a corner somewhere (preferably close to your router so you can get to it with an ethernet cable). It's won't be Grandma proof, but if you're remotely technical you can write a docker compose file that glue…

I moved my DO server to a pi that was gathering dust. I agree, folks need to get off the cloud, find an old laptop or an old $40 mac mini, they are usually low power enough.

Re: Fuck the cloud (2009)

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It's kind of funny that people are talking about "home labs" as a new thing because I've been running some form of servers on consumer PC hardware in my home since around 1998. For me this was an inseparable part of getting to know Linux and *BSD in that era. I guess I'm just old though.

>I've been running some form of servers on consumer PC hardware in my home since around 1998 My excuse is that I never had the financial stability that I have now in my middle 30s to get things going, also moving oversea and what not didn't help either. But I didn't go crazy, I have 3 Proxmox servers running a few services, Pihole + Unbound as recursive DNS to avoid DNS poisoning and personal data tracking. A DIY Tru…

How does Jellyfin solve findings Blu-ray copies of old movies? Unless you say you just pirate them? Jellyfin isn’t just for movie pirates.

Re: Fuck the cloud (2009)

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or https://web.archive.org/web/20260414220159/https://ascii.tex...

lol, as a VPN user, I get to read nothing. No offense to archive.org, I get it.

Ironically I've been opening up Tor for archive.org lately and it seems to never be on the same blocklist the VPN IPs are on.

Re: Fuck the cloud (2009)

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Up to early 2000s, people would go to the internet to have fun, everything was new, it was the mass migration from analog to digital era. 2020s, people are going offline to have fun. Homelab is becoming a thing even for people who never had experience with computer, people hosting their own documents, movies, music, backups in case things go bad. Even some companies have realised the price of going cloud, some are mo…

Before we had facebook and iphones the only people that were able to run a home lab were technically adept. In 1998 I used Avantgo and Vindigo to browse the news on the train and find restaurants when nobody else could. In 2005 I remember running my netgear mp101 upnp player and everybody was impressed how I could stream music. Then we made things like iphones and facebook which got everybody on the internet, and we made all the “hard” things like music, video, news, reservations, etc.. a “service” – democratizing it (what a nice word). But for technical people it was actually shittier than just running it on your own. Not right away -- there was small overlapping period from 2005 to 2014 or so, where the pace of advancement of technology was complementary to hosting it yourself, but after the corporate monopolies got fully involved everything just went to shit. I think it has come full circle again, where the “technically illiterate” will just consume the shitty services, and will be happy or oblivious to it – they are actually serfs giving their labor/money away and they don’t care. The rest of the technical folks are just going to do their own thing again because we’re sick of the crappy services. And it will be better than the general public can ever do, just like 1998 again.

Re: Fuck the cloud (2009)

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is not most cloud tech based on open-source? Without Linux I feel like we would have seen cloud take off 20 years later than it did.

Please show me the open source AWS. It's an encrustified open source offering where the original vendors aren't compensated. Where there's lock in, proprietary offering creep, and highway robbery billing.

>Please show me the open source AWS.

I will not, because that is not what I asked.

>Is not most cloud tech *based* on open-source?

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