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Picasso’s Guernica (Gigapixel)

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Post by gonzalohm »

bbor wrote: post #43
arc_light wrote: post #34

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Fascinating, thanks for sharing! After spending a semester there during the Catalonia vote for independence (the one with riot police forcibly storming ballot locations on TV) and reading a bit of history, it seems to me that Spain has to be one of the most fractured developed states in the world. Well, quasi-fractured I suppose: all the regionalism has lead to an also-strong federalist countermovemnt! See if you not…

What's weird about the high speed rail network? Is it that all lines go through Madrid? Some people like to bring that up when talking about how Madrid gets everything. But the alternative to that is building the line through the middle of nowhere. If you are going North-South or East-West, it makes economical sense to stop in Madrid

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aaa_aaa wrote: post #38
otherme123 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was this new theory at the dawn of air warfare called "Strategic Bombing", one of its main advocates was Giulio Dohet. The idea was that aircrafts could get behind the frontlines and bomb vital centers (civilians and production) freely. Hypothetically the morale would collapse, and lead quickly to surrendering. He even calculated that 300 tons of bombs per city over the most important cities would be enough to…

England and US carries the crown of the barbarism on this subject. And now the state of Israel. Check for names Frederick Lindemann, Arthur "Bomber" Harris and Sir Hugh Trenchard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehousing

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Post by graemep »

Ylpertnodi wrote: post #46
aaa_aaa wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

England and US carries the crown of the barbarism on this subject. And now the state of Israel. Check for names Frederick Lindemann, Arthur "Bomber" Harris and Sir Hugh Trenchard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehousing

> England and US carries the crown of the barbarism... Germany played a part. Snark aside, v1's and 2's weren't exactly 'targetted'.

Dehousing was also inspired by the effects of German bombing of the UK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehousing#Production_and_conte...

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Post by netol »

gonzalohm wrote: post #51
bbor wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fascinating, thanks for sharing! After spending a semester there during the Catalonia vote for independence (the one with riot police forcibly storming ballot locations on TV) and reading a bit of history, it seems to me that Spain has to be one of the most fractured developed states in the world. Well, quasi-fractured I suppose: all the regionalism has lead to an also-strong federalist countermovemnt! See if you not…

What's weird about the high speed rail network? Is it that all lines go through Madrid? Some people like to bring that up when talking about how Madrid gets everything. But the alternative to that is building the line through the middle of nowhere. If you are going North-South or East-West, it makes economical sense to stop in Madrid

The fact that Valencia and Barcelona are still not connected, for example

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Post by aaa_aaa »

Ylpertnodi wrote: post #46
aaa_aaa wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

England and US carries the crown of the barbarism on this subject. And now the state of Israel. Check for names Frederick Lindemann, Arthur "Bomber" Harris and Sir Hugh Trenchard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehousing

> England and US carries the crown of the barbarism... Germany played a part. Snark aside, v1's and 2's weren't exactly 'targetted'.

These decisions precedes the extensive use of V1 and V2, also volume and scale matters. Thats why they got the crown.

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Post by germandiago »

Synaesthesia wrote: post #22

Guernica shocked the world. It was the start of aerial bombardment of civilians, something which we have sadly normalised since WW2. but which I regard as terrorism. Picasso also painted another great work titled "Korea" in the same vein. War is an abomination, something we should all fight against.

I am spanish and I know the details better than you I presume.

Guernica was in many ways something both the british and republicans made stand out for propaganda.

There have been far worse things in the spanish civil wars.

For example Cabra was bombed in a day of market with the intention of killing and without being any kind of strategic strategic objective, way further than Guernica from other objectives and with more dead civilians actually.

It is just less well known bc of who did it.

Re: Picasso’s Guernica (Gigapixel)

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Post by dudefeliciano »

chairmansteve wrote: post #13
slg wrote: post #3

I have been thinking about this painting a lot more in recent years because it always comes to mind when someone mentions AI art. It's arguably the most important piece by arguably the most important artist of the 20th Century (the "arguablies" are intentional, I'm not going to have that argument because that isn't the point of my comment, but including "arguably" makes them both statements of fact) and it's bleak, u…

As a tool in the hands of a great artist, AI will make great art.

Not sure why you are getting downvoted. I don't think an artist would "one-shot" an art piece, let's say an image. At what point of the iterative process does the output become "Art"? What if the artist makes it a point to one-shot images and the ugliness of the output becomes their commentary of the current aesthetics...

I'd say it's much more about intent than the process, there are plenty of "Artists" on instagram (in quotes because I would not consider them artists), who paint by hand, surely talented people, but their images convey nothing. They are clearly marketing/branding themselves, the instagram post becomes the actual final output...I don't know.

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Post by baud147258 »

Synaesthesia wrote: post #22

Guernica shocked the world. It was the start of aerial bombardment of civilians, something which we have sadly normalised since WW2. but which I regard as terrorism. Picasso also painted another great work titled "Korea" in the same vein. War is an abomination, something we should all fight against.

> It was the start of aerial bombardment of civilians

It had already started way before, right when armed forces started using planes, in WW1. (I was thinking even earlier, in Libya during the Italo-Turkish war of 1911, but I haven't found confirmation in a quick search)

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