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Molotov cocktail is hurled at home of Sam Altman

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Re: Molotov cocktail is hurled at home of Sam Altman

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Post by ikkun »

lbarrow wrote: post #20
MontyCarloHall wrote: post #12

I don't think most people in tech are quite aware of the level of visceral AI hatred amongst non-techies. I've personally witnessed the worst Thanksgiving dinnertable fight I've ever seen (after someone revealed that their recipe was AI-generated, a couple people literally spat out the food they were enjoying and threw their plates in the trash), and a divorce (a very solid marriage between two people who were once b…

Spitting your food out because the AI generated the recipe is so clearly irrational that I chuckled a bit on reading that

I could see being concerned about food safety; I wouldn't trust an AI recipe to tell me how long/what temperature to cook chicken, and I might not trust someone who uses AI to generate recipes to know either.

Re: Molotov cocktail is hurled at home of Sam Altman

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Post by pixel_popping »

therobots927 wrote: post #46
strongpigeon wrote: post #36

It is a bit scary how people seem to genuinely be OK with violence (see this reddit thread [0]). Is just me or does it feel like the overall "temperature" has gone up. [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1shugf8/firebomb_t...

It is scary. You know what’s also scary? Being told a robot is going to take your job and healthcare away. There’s a lot of scary shit going on.

I agree it is scary, but why would a robot take healthcare away? Wouldn't that be the contrary?

Re: Molotov cocktail is hurled at home of Sam Altman

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Post by steve1977 »

dirkc wrote: post #39
lbarrow wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spitting your food out because the AI generated the recipe is so clearly irrational that I chuckled a bit on reading that

People talk about AI getting things wrong all the time, why is it "so clearly irrational" to be doubtful of a recipe that might include ingredients that can make you sick?

People get things wrong all the time as well, so I wouldn't trust them either.

Re: Molotov cocktail is hurled at home of Sam Altman

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Post by happytoexplain »

lbarrow wrote: post #20
MontyCarloHall wrote: post #12

I don't think most people in tech are quite aware of the level of visceral AI hatred amongst non-techies. I've personally witnessed the worst Thanksgiving dinnertable fight I've ever seen (after someone revealed that their recipe was AI-generated, a couple people literally spat out the food they were enjoying and threw their plates in the trash), and a divorce (a very solid marriage between two people who were once b…

Spitting your food out because the AI generated the recipe is so clearly irrational that I chuckled a bit on reading that

I mostly agree that it's an overreaction. However, "irrational" is a really bad choice of word. Every non-technical person understands that sometimes AI says wrong things - like, random, crazy wrong things, not just a little off. It's just a general rule kept in the back of the mind. Food is easily in that realm of "be careful". Did the AI produce a recipe that would be harmful to you and the cook didn't notice? Almost certainly not. So, sure, they were being over-cautious. But "irrational"? No, no, no. It's definitely rational.

Look at what you're writing.

"Doing X is so clearly irrational that I chuckled a bit."

Please don't perpetuate the image of the elitist techie. That is what was just firebombed.

Re: Molotov cocktail is hurled at home of Sam Altman

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Post by misiti3780 »

lbarrow wrote: post #20
MontyCarloHall wrote: post #12

I don't think most people in tech are quite aware of the level of visceral AI hatred amongst non-techies. I've personally witnessed the worst Thanksgiving dinnertable fight I've ever seen (after someone revealed that their recipe was AI-generated, a couple people literally spat out the food they were enjoying and threw their plates in the trash), and a divorce (a very solid marriage between two people who were once b…

Spitting your food out because the AI generated the recipe is so clearly irrational that I chuckled a bit on reading that

lol = if you're against AI recipes, you have bigger problems.

Re: Molotov cocktail is hurled at home of Sam Altman

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Post by throwanem »

MontyCarloHall wrote: post #43
throwanem wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surely there must have been underlying tensions in that marriage. (I don't feel at all confident in that statement; I am requesting reassurance.)

They are pretty good friends of mine and I never sensed any tension. It really was a marriage-ending bolt out of the blue, like discovering an affair or severe financial infidelity.

I don't really want to say "thank you." That story, more to the point that I can't find a priori cause to doubt it, makes me glad I'm about to go enjoy a gorgeous spring afternoon full of birdsong and sunshine. But I appreciate your taking the time to follow up.

Re: Molotov cocktail is hurled at home of Sam Altman

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Post by ajross »

lbarrow wrote: post #20
MontyCarloHall wrote: post #12

I don't think most people in tech are quite aware of the level of visceral AI hatred amongst non-techies. I've personally witnessed the worst Thanksgiving dinnertable fight I've ever seen (after someone revealed that their recipe was AI-generated, a couple people literally spat out the food they were enjoying and threw their plates in the trash), and a divorce (a very solid marriage between two people who were once b…

Spitting your food out because the AI generated the recipe is so clearly irrational that I chuckled a bit on reading that

The very fact that your takeaway from that story was "look at how dumb my enemies are" is why this is a conflict worth worrying about.

Are you right? Yeah, basically. Are you going to laugh at your stupid neighbors until they burn your house down in rage? Maybe? You don't treat fear with malice.

Re: Molotov cocktail is hurled at home of Sam Altman

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Post by happytoexplain »

steve1977 wrote: post #53
dirkc wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People talk about AI getting things wrong all the time, why is it "so clearly irrational" to be doubtful of a recipe that might include ingredients that can make you sick?

People get things wrong all the time as well, so I wouldn't trust them either.

People get things wrong in a different, more observable/predictable way. Sure, we are easily tricked dummies and we can't know if a human is right or wrong, but our human-trust heuristics are highly developed. Our AI-trust heuristics don't exist.

Re: Molotov cocktail is hurled at home of Sam Altman

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Post by whimblepop »

pixel_popping wrote: post #52
therobots927 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is scary. You know what’s also scary? Being told a robot is going to take your job and healthcare away. There’s a lot of scary shit going on.

I agree it is scary, but why would a robot take healthcare away? Wouldn't that be the contrary?

Because healthcare in the US is tied to employment. For most people here, losing a job means losing access to healthcare (partially or totally).

Re: Molotov cocktail is hurled at home of Sam Altman

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Post by therobots927 »

pixel_popping wrote: post #52
therobots927 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is scary. You know what’s also scary? Being told a robot is going to take your job and healthcare away. There’s a lot of scary shit going on.

I agree it is scary, but why would a robot take healthcare away? Wouldn't that be the contrary?

1. Americans need a job to get healthcare

2. Robots take away jobs from Americans and the proceeds to go the owner (investor) class

3. Americans no longer have healthcare

Understand?

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