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Peers vote to ban pornography depicting sex acts between stepfamily members

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Re: Peers vote to ban pornography depicting sex acts between stepfamily members

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Yup you you just can’t film them having sex

You probably can. You just can't note their relation.

I'd imagine 99.999% of "step-whatever" porn is not actual step-whatevers.

Re: Peers vote to ban pornography depicting sex acts between stepfamily members

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Some ministers had opposed the amendment and suggested the new ban would have been difficult to implement because, under the law in England and Wales, it is not illegal for adults who are step-related to engage in a sexual relationship. This is amusing to me. Legal to do, but not legal to film.

In the infamous words of George Carlin: "Selling is legal, and fucking is legal; but selling fucking is not legal."

A politician voting for a bill is legal. Giving money to a politician is legal. But giving money to a politician so he'll vote for a bill is not legal.

Re: Peers vote to ban pornography depicting sex acts between stepfamily members

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

People forget Carlin was a comedian. "It's a big club and you ain't in it". Obviously the problem is the club is too small, that's why for most of the people it is true that they are not part of it. "Half the population is stupider than how stupid the average person is". As if somehow there's not a single person exactly on the median. In fact there is probably a huge number of people there, and within a margin of err…

> People forget Carlin was a comedian. That would seem to include you?

How do you figure? I don't have a problem with Carlin, but with people who quote him as a source of wisdom.

The commenter who quoted him here in the thread meant to make a joke and I didn't get it? I thought he quoted him as a point against the law we are discussing.

Re: Peers vote to ban pornography depicting sex acts between stepfamily members

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Ok I'm just gonna straight up ask: do people actually like "oh no stepbrother" porn? What's with the huge proliferation of it? I only watch it because it seems like 80% of the well shot, quality porn is step family shit, and I'm wondering if I'm participating in some kind of bizarre feedback loop where step family porn happened to be a category that started getting higher quality production value, which got more view…

My assumption is that it's just easy to add and widen the audience to a random shoot? You put in a few lines of dialogue at the start and change the title, and it's not seen as so taboo that viewers will turn it off from that. But it gets some dedicated perverts searching for it where they might have ignored it before, etc.

Like the keyword stuffing that happens on Amazon listings.

Re: Peers vote to ban pornography depicting sex acts between stepfamily members

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Driving is legal. Drinking is legal. But drinking and driving is not legal."

One kills people the other makes people, they're not the same.

You know what really makes people? Polygamy. And I want my f*king human rights, now! Just like President Jimmi Carta says.

Re: Peers vote to ban pornography depicting sex acts between stepfamily members

#56

I don't get the point of banning specific pornography niches/fetishes that are otherwise legal. Are there not much more objectionable fetishes than this one?

The UK government wants to ban porn entirely. Requiring website users to identify themselves (the age verification thing) is the first step. This is another step.

Re: Peers vote to ban pornography depicting sex acts between stepfamily members

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post #37

Anything but exposing the abusers who Epstein and Maxwell trafficked to [1] and investigating (let alone prosecuting) child abuse [2][3]. Britain has many real problems. This isn't one of them. [1]: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/the-epstein-files-rattle-... [2]: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/2/26/british-politicians... [3]: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/28/outrag...

The UK has been far better at this than the US thus far.

While we were having "No Kings" rallies over our elected Epstein co-conspirator, they arrested and demoted a royal family member over it. And a separate lord.

Re: Peers vote to ban pornography depicting sex acts between stepfamily members

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> People forget Carlin was a comedian. That would seem to include you?

How do you figure? I don't have a problem with Carlin, but with people who quote him as a source of wisdom. The commenter who quoted him here in the thread meant to make a joke and I didn't get it? I thought he quoted him as a point against the law we are discussing.

You're semantically quibbling with a clear joke and using those quibbles to avoid engaging with the point it's making.

Re: Peers vote to ban pornography depicting sex acts between stepfamily members

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What is too bawdy, too immodest, too immoral to depict in a figment of film (assuming for the moment that the state even has legitimate authority in this area)?

One of the greatest films ever made is a comedy depicting the combination of psychosis, greed, incompetence, and bigotry bringing about mass murder and nuclear holocaust, culminating with the characters planning orgies in a mineshaft.

If depicting _that_ is OK (and it is - Dr. Strangelove is one of the finest in the medium, not only in its commentary on war, but its commentary on film), how in tarnation can adult actors pretending to be step-siblings cross the line?

Re: Peers vote to ban pornography depicting sex acts between stepfamily members

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This comment section will inevitably fill up with comments from people who have exactly the same thing to say, namely, that internet censorship is bad. That opinion has transcended the good-take-bad-take dichotomy: it's entered the pantheon of ideas that are seamlessly dumped into any mildly-related discussion and act as an impediment to any more interesting ideas. Here's a more interesting idea: because the pornogra…

The law also punishes possession. Therefore, it doesn’t matter that the UK does not produce this good.
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