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Industrial design files for Keychron keyboards and mice

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Re: Industrial design files for Keychron keyboards and mice

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Post by robinsonb5 »

Majromax wrote: post #26
dec0dedab0de wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not a lawyer, but as I understand it the license is a matter of copyright, and the copyright only applies to the design files. So as long as you're making that keyboard for yourself then you should be good to do anything you want with the keyboard, because it is no longer using the license at that point. Now, what is interesting is if someone were to blatantly violate the license and start manufacturing commercial ke…

> Not a lawyer, but as I understand it the license is a matter of copyright, and the copyright only applies to the design files. So as long as you're making that keyboard for yourself then you should be good to do anything you want with the keyboard, because it is no longer using the license at that point. What if I take the design, print it, include the thing in a staged photo, and sell prints of the photo? What if…

Not a lawyer either, but:

> What if I take the design, print it, include the thing in a staged photo, and sell prints of the photo?

Probably fair use, provided the design wasn't the main focus of the photo, but merely part of the "set dressing."

> What if I skip the printing and use the design files as a basis for a rendered photo or animation?

> What if I print the design, then use a 3D scanner to recreate a file from the physical artifact?

Those questions are simpler - both scenarios would be derivative works of the original files, so covered by the license.

Re: Industrial design files for Keychron keyboards and mice

#53

Post by galaxyLogic »

Majromax wrote: post #26
dec0dedab0de wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not a lawyer, but as I understand it the license is a matter of copyright, and the copyright only applies to the design files. So as long as you're making that keyboard for yourself then you should be good to do anything you want with the keyboard, because it is no longer using the license at that point. Now, what is interesting is if someone were to blatantly violate the license and start manufacturing commercial ke…

> Not a lawyer, but as I understand it the license is a matter of copyright, and the copyright only applies to the design files. So as long as you're making that keyboard for yourself then you should be good to do anything you want with the keyboard, because it is no longer using the license at that point. What if I take the design, print it, include the thing in a staged photo, and sell prints of the photo? What if…

What if I'm a sculptor and I design and produce a statue? Shouldn't I still have the copyright to the statue, no matter what kind of machine I used to do the actual sculpting?

Re: Industrial design files for Keychron keyboards and mice

#54

Post by dec0dedab0de »

robinsonb5 wrote: post #51
Majromax wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Not a lawyer, but as I understand it the license is a matter of copyright, and the copyright only applies to the design files. So as long as you're making that keyboard for yourself then you should be good to do anything you want with the keyboard, because it is no longer using the license at that point. What if I take the design, print it, include the thing in a staged photo, and sell prints of the photo? What if…

Not a lawyer either, but: > What if I take the design, print it, include the thing in a staged photo, and sell prints of the photo? Probably fair use, provided the design wasn't the main focus of the photo, but merely part of the "set dressing." > What if I skip the printing and use the design files as a basis for a rendered photo or animation? > What if I print the design, then use a 3D scanner to recreate a file fr…

but are those derived works copyrightable? I don't think they are.

Re: Industrial design files for Keychron keyboards and mice

#55

Post by dec0dedab0de »

galaxyLogic wrote: post #53
Majromax wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Not a lawyer, but as I understand it the license is a matter of copyright, and the copyright only applies to the design files. So as long as you're making that keyboard for yourself then you should be good to do anything you want with the keyboard, because it is no longer using the license at that point. What if I take the design, print it, include the thing in a staged photo, and sell prints of the photo? What if…

What if I'm a sculptor and I design and produce a statue? Shouldn't I still have the copyright to the statue, no matter what kind of machine I used to do the actual sculpting?

Yes, but that only applies if you count the keyboard as a work of art worthy of copyright protection.

Re: Industrial design files for Keychron keyboards and mice

#56

Post by moo-jason »

Very cool. I have the V7. I'm a fan. Just did this golang project: https://github.com/mbarlow/saengsation Can control the LEDs from commandline. Includes claude skill and hooks. I'm using it to now see claude state. Rainbow animation while claude is working, glows amber when need to switch back to give permission to command, etc. Configurable. Works well.

Re: Industrial design files for Keychron keyboards and mice

#58

Post by bityard »

chaosharmonic wrote: post #16

On the source-available piece: I'm not saying I'm for those over open source licenses in general, but Prusa brought up some fair questions when discussing the OCL. Essentially: define "personal use." Have I violated a non-commercial license if I print this keyboard and then use it to build someone a website? Does CC-NC mean a Prusacaster -- or any guitar knob with such a license for that matter -- is strictly barred…

Yeesh. People. C'mon. It's okay to use some common sense here.

Keychron is a keyboard/mouse company. It is VERY reasonable to interpret "non-commercial use" as meaning "don't sell mice/keyboards built or derived from these designs."

NOT "we are going to sue you if a 3D-printed copy of our mouse ends up in the background shot of your movie," or similar contrived madness.

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